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|Mitch| 03-10-2015 03:12 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Max Unger signed a 4 year / $25,835,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including a $5,500,000 signing bonus, $11,500,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $6,458,750.
:bng:

ChrisXVI 03-10-2015 03:12 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
So who we trading up for in the first round?! You know we won't sit idly by with the ammunition to trade up.

papz 03-10-2015 03:13 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Max Unger signed a 4 year / $25,835,000 contract with the New Orleans Saints, including a $5,500,000 signing bonus, $11,500,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $6,458,750.
That needs it's own thread! Good deal.

hagan714 03-10-2015 03:14 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
He then goes to a non-guaranteed $4.5 million in both 2014 and 2015, then falls again to $4.25 million non-guaranteed with a $250,000 roster bonus in 2016. There are escalators in base salary that remain undisclosed.

Max Unger's Contract Details Revealed - SB Nation Seattle

talk about cap friendly move

A+ based on this along

lose of Jimmy? drew is crying

73Saint 03-10-2015 03:14 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Big Graham fan, but he went quiet in big games. I like the move.

billyt81 03-10-2015 03:15 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
If Amari Cooper is there at 13, do we pick him? To me he was the best WR in college last year.

nola_swammi 03-10-2015 03:15 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I don't like it! I don't like it! Sending him to the freakin pedhawks, hopefully Graham is more injured than thought or we just made a stupid trade just for a center (while we have Lelito ) plus giving up a 4th rd. we only get a 1st rd pick (32) might as well be a second for Graham, dayum, I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel

|Mitch| 03-10-2015 03:15 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 643685)
So who we trading up for in the first round?! You know we won't sit idly by with the ammunition to trade up.
Why trade up when you have 2 first round picks?!

Draft Trae Waynes with the #13 and someone like Benardrick McKinney with the #31

Mr.Riaton 03-10-2015 03:15 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
That's what I call putting the team first! Now go get Foster!

The Dude 03-10-2015 03:16 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Hope doesn't turn out to be a kruetz

hagan714 03-10-2015 03:16 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
winston sweep stakes lol

nola_swammi 03-10-2015 03:16 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 643690)
If Amari Cooper is there at 13, do we pick him? To me he was the best WR in college last year.
Have no choice now, Colston is on his last leg

papz 03-10-2015 03:16 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 643694)
Hope doesn't turn out to be a kruetz
What the heck? Get that outta here!

You're such a pooper.

saintsfan1976 03-10-2015 03:17 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
We got the man who's been making holes for Marshawn Lynch

|Mitch| 03-10-2015 03:18 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Seahawks acquire TE Jimmy Graham, 4th-round pick from Saints for C Max Unger, 1st-round pick

Remember a year ago when the Saints gave Jimmy Graham all that money? It's amazing how quickly things can change in the NFL. Graham is now gone to the Pacific Northwest, and the Saints acquired Max Unger and a first-round choice in return.

I don't think there's a concise winner in this deal, as it makes sense for both teams. For Seattle, throwing the ball to Graham in the end zone makes a lot more sense than targeting Ricardo Lockette, or any of the other mediocre targets Seattle had. Graham's presence on the field will also open things up for Marshawn Lynch, who won't face stacked boxes anymore. More importantly, Wilson finally has a stud weapon to work with, so he'll be even better in his fourth season.

Wilson, however, loses a center, but that's not a huge deal because of how mobile he is. It would mean far more for a pocket-passing quarterback, but the offensive line isn't as prevalent for Wilson. It is for Drew Brees, who was beaten up last year because center Jonathan Goodwin was incompetent. Unger is a huge upgrade, and the Saints are getting a first-round pick on top of it.

Brees does lose Graham though, which is huge. Perhaps the Saints will use their second opening-round draft selection on a replacement in Maxx Williams, who fits the range at the end of the first round, though I currently have Williams going in the second frame. For more, check out my 2015 NFL Mock Draft, which was updated today.

Grade for Seahawks - B+
Grade for Saints - B+
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Mr.Riaton 03-10-2015 03:18 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I guess the defiant goalpost dunk in preseason sealed his fate.

saintsfan1976 03-10-2015 03:19 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 643701)
I guess the defiant goalpost dunk in preseason sealed his fate.
If not, smiting the team to get paid like a WR did...

Danno 03-10-2015 03:20 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I think the deal is fair. I think it was a win win for both teams.
Drew now has a couple extra seconds to survey the field, and our run game should improve, especially if we upgrade one of the OG's as well. We also get some more cap relief to spend on some defense.

And Seattle got the 2nd best TE in the league.

spkb25 03-10-2015 03:21 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Think it is completely cap related and our need for a center was huge. we all said this last season, our line needs to get better in order for us to be better. Center was our most inconsistent position, no doubt about it.

SP is shaking **** up

stickman 03-10-2015 03:22 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 643694)
Hope doesn't turn out to be a kruetz
Dude, do not friggin' jinx this guy before he even gets here!

Oh, and Lelito to guard? Maybe part ways with Grubbs or Evans?

Danno 03-10-2015 03:22 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
We all wanted change this year. Uhhh, we got it!!!

spkb25 03-10-2015 03:22 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 643703)
I think the deal is fair. I think it was a win win for both teams.
Drew now has a couple extra seconds to survey the field, and our run game should improve, especially if we upgrade one of the OG's as well. We also get some more cap relief to spend on some defense.

And Seattle got the 2nd best TE in the league.
No doubt, Danno. I mean Drew has had poor blocking in 13 and 14, in my opinion. Last year was the worse of all. We can win without Jimmy, we won a SB without him, but oline, I don't think so.

hagan714 03-10-2015 03:23 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
i guess this is the final price we will have to pay for Byrd signing

I like unger now keep going and get the rest of the pieces

spkb25 03-10-2015 03:24 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 643709)
i guess this is the final price we will have to pay for Byrd signing

I like unger now keep going and get the rest of the pieces
I so wish we could get that big ol boy out of Iowa.

Halo 03-10-2015 03:24 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
And Graham was getting paid way too much. We could have paid 2 big name defenders or an o-lineman and d-lineman with that pay.

Graham has been hurt two seasons in a row. That super pay he gets depends on him being healthy 100% of the time which isn't the case.

billyt81 03-10-2015 03:24 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I think Graham has a high probability of struggling next year. I think his success was due largely to Drew Brees prowess as a passer. We will see.

ChrisXVI 03-10-2015 03:25 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Man, now that this has sunk in a little more I can't tell you how much I love this deal. I was sick and tired of forced passes to Graham in double and triple coverage. Our offense was at it's best when Drew had time to spread the ball around. Plus, extra first round pick!!!

VegasSaint9 03-10-2015 03:25 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 643690)
If Amari Cooper is there at 13, do we pick him? To me he was the best WR in college last year.
To be frank, he just will not be there.

brees84 03-10-2015 03:25 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
PFT:

So why did the Saints move on from tight end Jimmy Graham? It wasn’t an easy decision, but there were several important reasons for it.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Saints decided that the opportunity to acquire another first-round draft pick from the Seahawks and the ability to jettison Graham’s contract would allow them to devote resources to improve a defense that needs plenty of help.

More importantly, the Saints believe that they can and will move the ball without Graham on the roster. He’s had injury issues the last two years, and the Saints were pleased with the production in his absence. Also, the team ultimately saw no real correlation between Graham’s performance and team success.

While the move doesn’t create much if any 2015 cap space, it gives the Saints extra cash and clears Graham’s big-money deal from last July off the books.

onebyone 03-10-2015 03:25 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I guess time will tell if this was good or not.

I really liked Jimmy though. It's gonna suck seeing him out there with the Seahawks. Ugh.

brees84 03-10-2015 03:26 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
The #Jaguars have traded TE Marcedes Lewis to the #Saints. In less than an hour, New Orleans ships one Tight End out, trades for another.

nola_swammi 03-10-2015 03:26 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 643707)
We all wanted change this year. Uhhh, we got it!!!
The only change I wanted was on defense. 1st Sproles now jimmy their goes the offense of 2013. Who going to step up?

Lord_Saint83 03-10-2015 03:27 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
We won the super bowl with a old Shockey. Watson and Hill will do fine.

VegasSaint9 03-10-2015 03:28 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 643719)
The only change I wanted was on defense. 1st Sproles now jimmy their goes the offense of 2013. Who going to step up?
That offense sucked after the Patriots game.

dizzle88 03-10-2015 03:28 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 643720)
We won the super bowl with a old Shockey. Watson and Hill will do fine.
And now Marcedes Lewis from the Jags apparently!

saintsfan1976 03-10-2015 03:28 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 643716)
PFT:

So why did the Saints move on from tight end Jimmy Graham? It wasn’t an easy decision, but there were several important reasons for it.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Saints decided that the opportunity to acquire another first-round draft pick from the Seahawks and the ability to jettison Graham’s contract would allow them to devote resources to improve a defense that needs plenty of help.

More importantly, the Saints believe that they can and will move the ball without Graham on the roster. He’s had injury issues the last two years, and the Saints were pleased with the production in his absence. Also, the team ultimately saw no real correlation between Graham’s performance and team success.

While the move doesn’t create much if any 2015 cap space, it gives the Saints extra cash and clears Graham’s big-money deal from last July off the books.
E X A C T L Y :beer:

The Dude 03-10-2015 03:28 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
I had a feeling graham fell out with Bree's and Payton

papz 03-10-2015 03:29 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
Oh... I'm just going to mention this again.



We're going to run the goddamn football!!!

:itsgood::itsgood::itsgood:

ChrisXVI 03-10-2015 03:29 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
The trade with the Jags was from a fake Twitter account.

dizzle88 03-10-2015 03:29 PM
Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 643726)
The trade with the Jags was from a fake Twitter account.
Ahh that sucks!


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