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One of my friends is a hawks fan and I asked him what do you think of the deal? He responded with 3 words....

You won.......easily..

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NFL Moral: Dont get attached to players!

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This will be so interesting. I could really see Graham struggling next year, in a run happy offense with a QB who is not Drew Brees. Then again, Graham could end up being SuperBowl MVP.

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This trade is perfect for Seattle. We were trying to trade the 1st round pick all offseason so from our perspective is a proven pro bowl starter for a 1st round pick..... yes. That being said, I hate Graham so this will be interesting.

Unger has had health problems and seems to be breaking down. If he is healthy,you will love him. The real value for your organization will be the draft picks. We all love unger but he is unreliable at this point. Obviously your organization sees real talent in the first round so it is impossible to say "who won".

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Just had people telling me i should be crying and we are screwed as we have no money

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Saints 2016 Cut Bunkley/Hawthorne no Graham cap, inc unger deal. we have 25ml in free capthats with Colston,Evans,Grubbs getting 10ml each(they wont get it) and brees cap being 27ml in the year he will restructure/extend.

We could easily be entering 2016 with 40ml free cap space
Gotham City Rogues Saints 2016 Cut Bunkley/Hawthorne no Graham cap, inc unger deal. we have 25ml in free ca

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Same with Graham, he has battle injuries the past two seasons... And against physical defenders(decent press off the line) and Graham struggles mightily...

Look forward to him becoming non existent in games when he is defended properly

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Isn't this a reference from Riddick? Too funny? LOL!

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It will be interesting to see how he fairs in your offense, he might be better because Wilson has the ability to extend plays when the pocket breaks down

Although as a seahawks fan you will already know what happens when teams get physical with Graham at the line, you did it in the playoffs and he completely disappeared.

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I keep seeing people saying that we're going to run the ball now.... Who's going to run it? I don't remember Ingram doing so well, and we just got rid of Thomas.

Also, don't new draft picks usually take a few years to really settle in? How's that going to help for this year?

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I like the trade, but it bothers me that it had to be with Seattle. Wish it was an AFC team. It also bothers me as to what we had to give up to get Graham signed to that contract. We sure could have used Sproles at least last year.

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Did you even watch any of the games last year? How about the playoff game in Philadelphia the year before...

Ingram's switch has been flipped since then

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From a strictly talent/immediste impact standpoint I'd say sesttle got the better trade. That being said, I think the Saints benefited most.

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Ingram was 36 yards shy of 1000 yards rushing, with a 4.3 average (second only to demarco Murray) and 9 TD's, that's a pretty solid season to say he missed 2-3 games with a broken hand.

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Ingram had a monster year last year considering he was splitting carrys and was injured several games. He averaged near 5 yds a carry. Doesn't get much better than that.

That was one hell of a first post. Welcome to the board!

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I really meant it when I said I don't remember Ingram running much :) Nearly 1000 yards? I had no idea it was that high!

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LOL can you blame him?

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Ingram has run for around 1100 yards in his last 15 games(playoff 2013)

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He ran 225 times for 964 yards. Do the math. He also missed 3 games and was still at 1000 yards.

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Or the legion of boom will toughen him up; hard to say. He is going to be tested real fast because these guys will make his life miserable if he has a soft attitude.

OMG it just might be a WIN WIN for both teams LOL.
It is funny how when a trade happens one team has to win and one lose. To be honest I didn't think Graham was tough enough to be on this team but perhaps practicing against them everyday might be the best thing for him.

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The thing is, any WR can get open when the play breaks down, and Wilson breaks contain. Graham's real value will be his ability to help Wilson from the pocket, which he can definitely can do in the red zone, especially. To me, the question becomes Graham's position. All along, I've said that Graham is a WR, and I don't foresee him playing much in a three point stance.

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It should be NOLA all day. As long as your team gets better, that is all that matters. If it means trading with the Dirty Birds, so be it..

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As for Jordan, we need to let that alone. He had a down year, it happens, I still think he can be special.

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The interesting thing is what do Seattle do on the interior.
If they cant keep Lynch from getting hit and the pocket collapses its not good. Can they afford the Raiders C in FA or is it a rookie coming in

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Quite possibly, it will be very interesting to say the least

I think you hit the nail on the head earlier too, the first round pick is our real prize, if Unger can stay healthy then that just sweetens the deal.

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How injury prone is this cat we got? How do Seattle fans feel about this?

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I still think we won; I've seen Graham battle injuries, disappear in games, drop passes too many times in the past couple of seasons to trade for a first round pick...

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Depends on the offer and future plans.
He has one year on his deal and if Allen wants a 4-3 d and payton agrees i dont think Ryan has much say. If ts a 4-3 look long time then you make a trade and gets something back. Otherwise keep him,i really rate him but not in a 4-3 D.

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And that is exactly what he will be, a wide receiver. Him, Baldwin, Kearse and our new big body Mathews. Russell Wilson will now have height in his receiving core. I love it. His salary will replace Percy Harvin.

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I totally agree. I also got the feeling that he and Brees were in a tiff last year.

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In regards to each teams current situations, I'm sad to say it is a win-win

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Damn it! So now what do I do with my Jimmy Graham jersey?

Still in shock over this one. Seahawks fans should be real happy about this I guess.

Hope we have done the right thing and as I have said in other threads on this site I would assume the coaches and front office know what they are doing.

Get the feeling that with a healthy JG the Hawks offence is going to be even more awesome next season. :-(

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Wow... I leave the house for an hour, and what do you do, Loomis?

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Hasn't been injury prone till the last two years. He seems to break down towards the end of the season. The Hawks got lucky he was back at the right time. If he can stay healthy, you will love him. He is tough smart and a great leader (which has given me some pause). He and Sweezy were our best lineman but he has shown some signs of breaking down. Don't kid yourself, this was a big reason The Hawks were willing to let him go.

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Last year some TE came out and said Jimmy Graham couldn't play for us because he doesn't block. Wasn't it Seattle's TE? If it was that's hilarious.

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It was the Eagles Zach Ertz lol.

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Agreed I think. Your organization must see real value towards the end of the 1st round; talent that would really upgrade your team but we have a surplus of. I was disappointed with the Saints last year. They were my team to challenge the Hawks. What happened?

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I would be lying if I still haven't totally processed this yet. We might have won or lost this but I love Unger a lot more than Graham when it comes to character...

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You may need to start taking some ginko for your memory. Ingram is the first Saints rusher since Deuce McAllister to carry the ball for more than 200 carries in a season. He had nearly 1000 yards rushing with a 4.3 YPC average. There was a mix of big runs along with tough grinding.

The kid earned his money.
Today's NFL is instant production. Many more college teams run close to pro offenses, and are coached by former NFL personnel. So they come out much more ready to produce than in the past.

Look at Brandon Cooks from last year. He was on his way to becoming a #1 receiver for the Saints when he got injured.

You've also missed the point that Unger is a Pro Bowl caliber veteran when healthy. He will contribute immediately in every facet of the offense.

Over the last 9 years the Saints offense is as predictable as a precision watch when it comes to Brees' pass attempts per game. Under 30, the team wins. Over 35, the team almost always loses.

Clearly Payton has seen the light being steamrolled by the Cowboys last year. Run the ball, play action over the top. Protects your defense. Protects your QB.

The Saints are not going to have a problem running the ball as long as all the pieces remain relatively healthy.

SFIAH

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Who do we sign to replace him?

I bet Julius Thomas is kicking himself
Charles Clay only on a transition tender
Jordan Cameron,(got to line up Jordan Cameron-Cameron Jordan at least once)