Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard

We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

I said earlier that I've been critical of the front office the past couple years, so don't start with me about anything other than this move. This a good move, and it has been stated why. If you don't want to believe, you obviously don't have to. But if you want to really make your point, this PR BS you like to bring up isn't helping you.

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

Exactly. If your pissed because jimmy is your favorite player, then just say it. But don't call the move dumb when it clearly has a chance to make us better. That's what it's about after all.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

Cause we traded someone who proven they can get the job done for a 31 pick that is not proven. Trading a 4th rd pick for a center when we need to replace Grubbs or Evans

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Cause we traded someone who proven they can get the job done for a 31 pick that is not proven. Trading a 4th rd pick for a center when we need to replace Grubbs or Evans

Proven until they face a physical defender and then?

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Cause we traded someone who proven they can get the job done for a 31 pick that is not proven. Trading a 4th rd pick for a center when we need to replace Grubbs or Evans

We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade?

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade?

To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.

|Mitch| · 03-11-2015, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.

Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money...

03-11-2015, 03:52 AM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi I look at it as we gave a 4th rd pick for him when the priority should've been guard We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart.

03-11-2015, 03:57 AM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by burningmetal We HAVE guards. And now we have a center as well. A 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. We have two first rounders. I can't imagine what else you need here to be satisfied. I get it, Jimmy was popular here. I wish he could have stayed in a way as well. But let's take our fan glasses off and try to think about what's smart. These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played

03-11-2015, 04:00 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played I said earlier that I've been critical of the front office the past couple years, so don't start with me about anything other than this move. This a good move, and it has been stated why. If you don't want to believe, you obviously don't have to. But if you want to really make your point, this PR BS you like to bring up isn't helping you.

03-11-2015, 04:01 AM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi These are the times I think saints PR are in here to make things look like these were smart moves just like the draft of last year. How is that panning out by the way? 3 on the roster but 2 actually played I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade?

03-11-2015, 04:03 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade? Exactly. If your pissed because jimmy is your favorite player, then just say it. But don't call the move dumb when it clearly has a chance to make us better. That's what it's about after all.

03-11-2015, 04:08 AM	#6
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't see how this can be classified as a dumb move... We have had a top 5 offense ever since '06 with or without Graham; and now we have a very good center to help make the offense less unpredictable; plus stealing another first round pick from the 'Hawks. How can you not be satisfied with the trade? Cause we traded someone who proven they can get the job done for a 31 pick that is not proven. Trading a 4th rd pick for a center when we need to replace Grubbs or Evans

03-11-2015, 04:14 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi Cause we traded someone who proven they can get the job done for a 31 pick that is not proven. Trading a 4th rd pick for a center when we need to replace Grubbs or Evans We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade?
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-11-2015, 04:20 AM	#9
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by burningmetal We got a proven player for a proven player. We saved money, upgraded a position of need and got a first rounder. The 4th round pick is a throw in. Yeah you get lucky in later rounds sometimes, but would you rather have given up a 2nd or 3rd? And who says we have to let grubbs and evans go? They are still productive, but if we choose to move on from them because they are getting older than we'd have some cap space, and from there, we can address the matter of who replaces them. It's called one thing at a time. Did you expect us to fill every need in one trade? To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade.

03-11-2015, 04:23 AM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi To answer your question, no but they didn't fill a need with this trade. Actually it is, you move Lelito to a starting guard and you have fixed the offensive line right there, not to mention saving a butt load of money...

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