Deuce is lazy?

saintfan · 02-01-2005, 05:49 PM

I wanna say it...please, somebody stop me from saying it.

Tobias-Reiper · 02-01-2005, 05:55 PM

... hate it when facts cut through a good mindless argument..

...Dulymus\' stock dropped in the draft not because of his \"work ethic\"... for those of you who do not remember, it dropped because he was labeled \"injury prone\".

..This year Deuce ran for a total of 1074 yards while playing in 14 games, counting the game he got injured (3 carries for a yard)... now, how many games, of those 14, did Deuce touch the ball 20 times? Ok, I will not count the game he got injured... without counting the game he got injured: he got the ball more than 20 times in only 7 games.
Here are Dulymus\' number of carries in some game games:

vs SEA- 16 rushes
vs MIN - 18 rushes
vs SD - 16 rushes
vs KC - 16 rushes
vs DEN - 13 rushes
vs CAR - 7 rushes

.. No one can get to 2000 yards with such few carries in so many games.. no one is going to run for 2000 yards touching the ball less than 300 times.. regardless of whether the line sucks or not, if the RB doesn\'t get the ball handed to him, there\'s nothing he can do, whether the line is bad or not.
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BTW, only 5 players in the history of the NFL have rushed for 2000 or more yards...

...40 yard times are great if you are running track, I guess.. the right shoes, on the right type of surface, a straight line, no constrictions on your body...
.. I don\'t know... Dan Morgan runs a 4.4 something, Chris Gamble runs a 4.2 something... they couldn\'t catch Deuce for 71 yards...

...as you were...

saintfan · 02-01-2005, 06:01 PM

So then, do we blame the defense for allowing the team to get so far behind? I\'d say so, but then had he performed better early in the game perhaps we might have done better overall.

How many TD\'s did he score? What\'s his TD/Fumble ratio for last year?

Man, this is fun. LOL

BlackandBlue · 02-01-2005, 06:02 PM

Gamble was exposed at the combine last year. That number is is closer to a 4.55/40. He\'s still a good corner.

LongTimeFan · 02-01-2005, 06:48 PM

Think Deuce is slow and lazy?, put him on the free market and you couldn\'t count to 10 before another team had signed him, Deuce is the real deal

spkb25 · 02-01-2005, 07:03 PM

im adding my two cents on the subject. but i would say that first deuce missed a couple of games and that will always bring your total down. if not he probally would have had 12 to 1300 yards this season. pretty good number. also we were using that one back set that didnt work the first part of the year. we also got behind in a lot of games through the first 12 that took deuce out of the game. also he was dropped in the draft because of a worry that he was injury prone not that he had a bad work ethic. thats my two cents

Danno · 02-01-2005, 08:09 PM

... hate it when facts cut through a good mindless argument.

mindless?
Yeah, I sure read a whole lot of \"Yeah, but... followed by a list of EXCUSES!
No wonder most fans are contenet with 8-8. They refuse to see the obvious when its right in their face.
No wait I\'m wrong, they admit they see the obvious but then supply a list of excuses why their own realization is incorrect.
The only mindless arguement I see is admitting there is a problem then listing excuses why its not a problem.
Its the typical Saint fan mentality.

spkb25 · 02-01-2005, 08:14 PM

im sorry what are you trying to say danno. please enlighten me and back it up with some facts if i am misunderstanding you. because i hope i am

Danno · 02-01-2005, 08:21 PM

im sorry what are you trying to say danno. please enlighten me and back it up with some facts if i am misunderstanding you. because i hope i am

I\'m sorry, I\'ve tried to enlighten in every way imaginable.
I don\'t think its possible for me to put it any differently than I already have 3 zillion times.
I guess sometimes its impossible to get your point across no matter how many different ways you try. If you don\'t understand my take yet, you never will and I\'ll never be able to explain it to you.
Like Deuce, I give up. :casstet:

saintswhodi · 02-01-2005, 08:32 PM

Like Deuce, I give up

This had me straight up rolling. Nice parting shot Danno. :rollinglaugh:

02-01-2005, 05:49 PM	#61
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02-01-2005, 05:55 PM	#62
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Deuce is lazy? ... hate it when facts cut through a good mindless argument.. ...Dulymus\' stock dropped in the draft not because of his \"work ethic\"... for those of you who do not remember, it dropped because he was labeled \"injury prone\". ..This year Deuce ran for a total of 1074 yards while playing in 14 games, counting the game he got injured (3 carries for a yard)... now, how many games, of those 14, did Deuce touch the ball 20 times? Ok, I will not count the game he got injured... without counting the game he got injured: he got the ball more than 20 times in only 7 games. Here are Dulymus\' number of carries in some game games: vs SEA- 16 rushes vs MIN - 18 rushes vs SD - 16 rushes vs KC - 16 rushes vs DEN - 13 rushes vs CAR - 7 rushes .. No one can get to 2000 yards with such few carries in so many games.. no one is going to run for 2000 yards touching the ball less than 300 times.. regardless of whether the line sucks or not, if the RB doesn\'t get the ball handed to him, there\'s nothing he can do, whether the line is bad or not. . BTW, only 5 players in the history of the NFL have rushed for 2000 or more yards... ...40 yard times are great if you are running track, I guess.. the right shoes, on the right type of surface, a straight line, no constrictions on your body... .. I don\'t know... Dan Morgan runs a 4.4 something, Chris Gamble runs a 4.2 something... they couldn\'t catch Deuce for 71 yards... ...as you were...
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02-01-2005, 06:01 PM	#63
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Deuce is lazy? So then, do we blame the defense for allowing the team to get so far behind? I\'d say so, but then had he performed better early in the game perhaps we might have done better overall. How many TD\'s did he score? What\'s his TD/Fumble ratio for last year? Man, this is fun. LOL

02-01-2005, 06:02 PM	#64
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Deuce is lazy? Gamble was exposed at the combine last year. That number is is closer to a 4.55/40. He\'s still a good corner.

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02-01-2005, 07:03 PM	#66
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce is lazy? im adding my two cents on the subject. but i would say that first deuce missed a couple of games and that will always bring your total down. if not he probally would have had 12 to 1300 yards this season. pretty good number. also we were using that one back set that didnt work the first part of the year. we also got behind in a lot of games through the first 12 that took deuce out of the game. also he was dropped in the draft because of a worry that he was injury prone not that he had a bad work ethic. thats my two cents
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02-01-2005, 08:09 PM	#67
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Deuce is lazy? ... hate it when facts cut through a good mindless argument. mindless? Yeah, I sure read a whole lot of \"Yeah, but... followed by a list of EXCUSES! No wonder most fans are contenet with 8-8. They refuse to see the obvious when its right in their face. No wait I\'m wrong, they admit they see the obvious but then supply a list of excuses why their own realization is incorrect. The only mindless arguement I see is admitting there is a problem then listing excuses why its not a problem. Its the typical Saint fan mentality.

02-01-2005, 08:14 PM	#68
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce is lazy? im sorry what are you trying to say danno. please enlighten me and back it up with some facts if i am misunderstanding you. because i hope i am

02-01-2005, 08:21 PM	#69
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Deuce is lazy? im sorry what are you trying to say danno. please enlighten me and back it up with some facts if i am misunderstanding you. because i hope i am I\'m sorry, I\'ve tried to enlighten in every way imaginable. I don\'t think its possible for me to put it any differently than I already have 3 zillion times. I guess sometimes its impossible to get your point across no matter how many different ways you try. If you don\'t understand my take yet, you never will and I\'ll never be able to explain it to you. Like Deuce, I give up. :casstet:

02-01-2005, 08:32 PM	#70
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Deuce is lazy? Like Deuce, I give up This had me straight up rolling. Nice parting shot Danno. :rollinglaugh: