Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future

saintshrimp · 09-30-2015, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You guys can feel however you want but this season is far from over and it's obvious the team hasn't given up.

Not to paint too pretty of a picture here, but all three losses went down to the wire and we lost by shooting ourselves in the foot.

3 starters coming back from injury.
1 more player could make an impact.
Anything can happen.

Like 3-3 and a game back by week six.

I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

jnormand · 09-30-2015, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

The season isn't over. It's week 4 and some of the best players are starting to come back. Cmon man! You crazy!!!

WillSaints81 · 09-30-2015, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

You don't understand matchups, we have played our toughest matchups already and are entering into our easy stretch.

Also, we have started out 0-4 twice and turned around got to .500 only for us to play a trap game against St.Louis and a home game against strongly contending SF team.

Say we get to .500 before the bye here is who we have after

@Houston
Carolina
@Tampa Bay
Detroit
Jacksonville
@Atlanta

After Houston we have Carolina at home, TB, Detroit and Jacksonville at home. I believe if we are 5-5 going into the bye we could be 9-6 going into Atlanta the last game. However I actually think we could go into the bye at 6-4 if we win in Indy.

Danno · 10-01-2015, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

You don't understand matchups, we have played our toughest matchups already and are entering into our easy stretch.

Also, we have started out 0-4 twice and turned around got to .500 only for us to play a trap game against St.Louis and a home game against strongly contending SF team.

Say we get to .500 before the bye here is who we have after

@Houston
Carolina
@Tampa Bay
Detroit
Jacksonville
@Atlanta

After Houston we have Carolina at home, TB, Detroit and Jacksonville at home. I believe if we are 5-5 going into the bye we could be 9-6 going into Atlanta the last game. However I actually think we could go into the bye at 6-4 if we win in Indy.

I could see 5-5 at the bye, then win 5 out of 6 to finish 10-6.

blackangold · 09-30-2015, 12:20 PM

The key for me is if Drew really wants to win another SB title next year he'll pull the Tom Brady and take a salary well bellow market value, I seriously doubt he needs the money and really there are no other options.

burningmetal · 09-30-2015, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

The key for me is if Drew really wants to win another SB title next year he'll pull the Tom Brady and take a salary well bellow market value, I seriously doubt he needs the money and really there are no other options.

That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space.

We know Mickey won't clear it any other way.

AsylumGuido · 09-30-2015, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space.

We know Mickey won't clear it any other way.

I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis.

voodooido · 09-30-2015, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis.

Yeah cause it worked so well for us in the past.

. Were you stranded on a deserted island all off-season?

Budsdrinker · 09-30-2015, 12:29 PM

This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over.

burningmetal · 09-30-2015, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over.

I don't have cap numbers handy at my disposal, and thus I obviously don't study all the numbers. But I'm guessing that when people we hear reports about cap issues for next year, it's because they factoring salary hikes along with the projected cap raise. And this deal is adding to that issue.

09-30-2015, 01:58 PM	#1
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You guys can feel however you want but this season is far from over and it's obvious the team hasn't given up. Not to paint too pretty of a picture here, but all three losses went down to the wire and we lost by shooting ourselves in the foot. 3 starters coming back from injury. 1 more player could make an impact. Anything can happen. Like 3-3 and a game back by week six. I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

09-30-2015, 02:23 PM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,773	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by saintshrimp I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team The season isn't over. It's week 4 and some of the best players are starting to come back. Cmon man! You crazy!!!

09-30-2015, 11:24 PM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by saintshrimp I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team You don't understand matchups, we have played our toughest matchups already and are entering into our easy stretch. Also, we have started out 0-4 twice and turned around got to .500 only for us to play a trap game against St.Louis and a home game against strongly contending SF team. Say we get to .500 before the bye here is who we have after @Houston Carolina @Tampa Bay Detroit Jacksonville @Atlanta After Houston we have Carolina at home, TB, Detroit and Jacksonville at home. I believe if we are 5-5 going into the bye we could be 9-6 going into Atlanta the last game. However I actually think we could go into the bye at 6-4 if we win in Indy. Danno likes this.

10-01-2015, 12:42 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by WillSaints81 You don't understand matchups, we have played our toughest matchups already and are entering into our easy stretch. Also, we have started out 0-4 twice and turned around got to .500 only for us to play a trap game against St.Louis and a home game against strongly contending SF team. Say we get to .500 before the bye here is who we have after @Houston Carolina @Tampa Bay Detroit Jacksonville @Atlanta After Houston we have Carolina at home, TB, Detroit and Jacksonville at home. I believe if we are 5-5 going into the bye we could be 9-6 going into Atlanta the last game. However I actually think we could go into the bye at 6-4 if we win in Indy. I could see 5-5 at the bye, then win 5 out of 6 to finish 10-6.

09-30-2015, 12:20 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future The key for me is if Drew really wants to win another SB title next year he'll pull the Tom Brady and take a salary well bellow market value, I seriously doubt he needs the money and really there are no other options.

09-30-2015, 12:28 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by blackangold The key for me is if Drew really wants to win another SB title next year he'll pull the Tom Brady and take a salary well bellow market value, I seriously doubt he needs the money and really there are no other options. That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space. We know Mickey won't clear it any other way.

09-30-2015, 01:46 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by burningmetal That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space. We know Mickey won't clear it any other way. I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis.

09-30-2015, 04:35 PM	#8
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis. Yeah cause it worked so well for us in the past.. Were you stranded on a deserted island all off-season?
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09-30-2015, 12:29 PM	#9
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-30-2015, 12:40 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future Originally Posted by Budsdrinker This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over. I don't have cap numbers handy at my disposal, and thus I obviously don't study all the numbers. But I'm guessing that when people we hear reports about cap issues for next year, it's because they factoring salary hikes along with the projected cap raise. And this deal is adding to that issue.

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