For the love of Peat, FIRE RR

WillSaints81 · 10-12-2015, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

You are spot on IMO burningmetal. The defense has shown some improvement with the exception of a couple slackers. Take Brandon Browner and all of his killer penalties and missed tackles out of the equation, how much better would this defense look?

IMO the offense is gone and done. When Mccown started, we slimmed it down and it worked. Last week it seemed we were pretty much doing the same thing but with Drew. Now this game they didn't.

When your Offense is struggling and your O line is acting like a turnstile at a little wayne concert, where is the adjustment? Where are the quick strike plays? IMO the blame is on the coaching. Im with Danno with, its time to blow this **** up. Payton has no answers, he looks defeated, he is no longer motivated. His assistants are washed up and just collecting a paycheck. If The upper Brass can get the right personnel in here, we have the players to make this work.

What upper brass?

Rugby Saint II · 10-12-2015, 03:45 PM

I never thought RR was a good hire to start with based on his previous record and experience. And he did surprisingly well but couldn't maintain his edge the following seasons.

We were moving into a 3-4 and now we're playing a 4-3......how can anyone expect to succeed as a DC with a head coach who just has to meddle with something at all times? Loomis has let Payton make too many questionable decisions and needs to tighten control over the franchise.

The long term plan has been ineffective the last few years. We need a new game plan that will change our course. Too many misses on free agents and terrible drafting hasn't helped but our approach needs a new beginning.

Oh yes, fire the D-line coach.......and the O-line coach too while we're at it.

Jamessr · 10-12-2015, 03:58 PM

I haven't been watching the games but the best fix fo a defense is a good running game.

MarchingOn · 10-12-2015, 05:07 PM

The Scientific Method would say to change only one variable and hold all the others constant to see what (if anything) then improves. Limit big change to only one on each side of the ball. But, we appear to have so many possibilities, it is tempting to make whole scale changes.

The good news is we revamped our personnel who draft.

We have starters who should no longer be starting: WR Colston, ROT Streif, ROG Evan, LB Hawthorne. Maybe NT Jenkins. Maybe our punter.

We've starters who should never have been our best to start if we knew how to draft: Lelito, half our LB corps, half our DL, half our secondary.

We have starters who should have their roles reduced: RB Ingram, CB Browner, our Safeties. Maybe NT Jenkins. Whoever is OLB opposite Kikaha.

We need new schemes or new personnel to stop the passes to the TE and the runs up the middle. And a possession WR to play with Cooks and Snead.

We need to sit Brees until he is healed or whatever else is wrong until he can deal with the OL we do have. He's holding the ball too long and making decisions/throws/ducks that should be or are picked off.

We have coaches who still need to go: Vitt and other position coaches for a while now. Maybe RR.

We have coaches who should have their roles reduced. SP (play-calling). Maybe RR.

We should explore any trade opportunities...players (Ingram, maybe Jordan) and coaches. Well, Coach. Don't like the risk on that one.

WillSaints81 · 10-12-2015, 05:21 PM

Is it RR or the fact that rookies had no one to learn from?

CharityMike · 10-13-2015, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Is it RR or the fact that rookies had no one to learn from?

You can be in denial all you want but history is fact. And the fact is, everywhere RR has been, he has failed after 1 good season. Since you are so smart, explain that.

Do you think players don't know how to play football unless they have someone, other than players, to learn from? Wtf is the point of coaching then?

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jnormand · 10-12-2015, 05:47 PM

Our team sucks. Oh well. On to the Failclowns.

brees84 · 10-13-2015, 11:41 AM

We have to draft or sign good free agent MLB. Stephone Anthony needs help. If he keeps playing with this below average MLBs his career will be nothing but mediocre as a Saint. "One man trying to correct other people mistakes."

spkb25 · 11-08-2015, 03:33 PM

Yeah, I am reviving it!

WHODATINCA · 11-08-2015, 03:57 PM

Blame should be laid on both sides of the ball. Did you see how many times they sacked our quarterback?!?!

I agree with the house cleaning on D. But, this team exposed us on both sides of the ball. Embarrassing.

10-12-2015, 05:17 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by CharityMike You are spot on IMO burningmetal. The defense has shown some improvement with the exception of a couple slackers. Take Brandon Browner and all of his killer penalties and missed tackles out of the equation, how much better would this defense look? IMO the offense is gone and done. When Mccown started, we slimmed it down and it worked. Last week it seemed we were pretty much doing the same thing but with Drew. Now this game they didn't. When your Offense is struggling and your O line is acting like a turnstile at a little wayne concert, where is the adjustment? Where are the quick strike plays? IMO the blame is on the coaching. Im with Danno with, its time to blow this **** up. Payton has no answers, he looks defeated, he is no longer motivated. His assistants are washed up and just collecting a paycheck. If The upper Brass can get the right personnel in here, we have the players to make this work. What upper brass?

10-12-2015, 03:45 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR I never thought RR was a good hire to start with based on his previous record and experience. And he did surprisingly well but couldn't maintain his edge the following seasons. We were moving into a 3-4 and now we're playing a 4-3......how can anyone expect to succeed as a DC with a head coach who just has to meddle with something at all times? Loomis has let Payton make too many questionable decisions and needs to tighten control over the franchise. The long term plan has been ineffective the last few years. We need a new game plan that will change our course. Too many misses on free agents and terrible drafting hasn't helped but our approach needs a new beginning. Oh yes, fire the D-line coach.......and the O-line coach too while we're at it.
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10-12-2015, 03:58 PM	#3
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR I haven't been watching the games but the best fix fo a defense is a good running game.

10-12-2015, 05:07 PM	#4
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR The Scientific Method would say to change only one variable and hold all the others constant to see what (if anything) then improves. Limit big change to only one on each side of the ball. But, we appear to have so many possibilities, it is tempting to make whole scale changes. The good news is we revamped our personnel who draft. We have starters who should no longer be starting: WR Colston, ROT Streif, ROG Evan, LB Hawthorne. Maybe NT Jenkins. Maybe our punter. We've starters who should never have been our best to start if we knew how to draft: Lelito, half our LB corps, half our DL, half our secondary. We have starters who should have their roles reduced: RB Ingram, CB Browner, our Safeties. Maybe NT Jenkins. Whoever is OLB opposite Kikaha. We need new schemes or new personnel to stop the passes to the TE and the runs up the middle. And a possession WR to play with Cooks and Snead. We need to sit Brees until he is healed or whatever else is wrong until he can deal with the OL we do have. He's holding the ball too long and making decisions/throws/ducks that should be or are picked off. We have coaches who still need to go: Vitt and other position coaches for a while now. Maybe RR. We have coaches who should have their roles reduced. SP (play-calling). Maybe RR. We should explore any trade opportunities...players (Ingram, maybe Jordan) and coaches. Well, Coach. Don't like the risk on that one.

10-12-2015, 05:21 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Is it RR or the fact that rookies had no one to learn from?

10-13-2015, 11:27 AM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Is it RR or the fact that rookies had no one to learn from? You can be in denial all you want but history is fact. And the fact is, everywhere RR has been, he has failed after 1 good season. Since you are so smart, explain that. Do you think players don't know how to play football unless they have someone, other than players, to learn from? Wtf is the point of coaching then? Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

10-12-2015, 05:47 PM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,761	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Our team sucks. Oh well. On to the Failclowns.

10-13-2015, 11:41 AM	#8
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR We have to draft or sign good free agent MLB. Stephone Anthony needs help. If he keeps playing with this below average MLBs his career will be nothing but mediocre as a Saint. "One man trying to correct other people mistakes." K Major likes this.
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11-08-2015, 03:33 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Yeah, I am reviving it!

11-08-2015, 03:57 PM	#10
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Blame should be laid on both sides of the ball. Did you see how many times they sacked our quarterback?!?! I agree with the house cleaning on D. But, this team exposed us on both sides of the ball. Embarrassing. Rsanders24 likes this.

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