Fire Sean Payton

RaginCajun83 · 11-30-2015, 02:25 PM

soft camp = soft team, yes they train up north but not a 5* resort in the state of the head coach's rumored GF that just happens to be owned by a fan of the team.

Since his return, Payton has made questionable call after questionable call. That year away took so much aggression and cockiness away from him

The Dude · 11-30-2015, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Unless Rita goes base jumping without a chute, she's already won...

Tick-tock, Tick-tock for Tommy...

Benson didn't lose control of the team, but he can't remove the team from the trust...

Tick-tock, Tick-tock...

And Gayle will just have to find another old geezer to kanoodle with and bank-roll her "interior decorating" pursuits...

Exactly. I wouldn't just assume that the franchise staying here is a given. I'm sure prospective head coaches and free agents aren't.

spkb25 · 11-30-2015, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

oh course not, just wondering as a group that is all.

I am looking for silver lined clouds in the storm of 2016 that is all. I am not at the point house cleaning or jumping from the band wagon season of 2016.

I came into this season saying two things.

1 give this team time to gel - injuries slowed that jell down
2 Build for 2017

So I am still chewing on the same things. They just turned out to be a little harder to digest than I was expecting.

We got some good players in the draft.

The biggest bounce of the year? Rob is gone.

we do have some really good young talent, no doubt.

TwistedTiger · 11-30-2015, 06:57 PM

I don't think Payton needs to be fired to turn this thing around, but Loomis does. There also needs to be a change in philosophy to build through the draft instead of getting all these washed up free agents. Unfortunately the salary cap mess and Brees contract stop the Saints from getting young quality free agents that they can sign to long term contracts. Winning big while Brees is still here may not be likely. Saints need a total rebuild.

Euphoria · 11-30-2015, 07:03 PM

I don't think he needs to be fired. I don't mind him putting the D in someones hands and holding them responsible but damn lets get it right!

If you do fire Payton the question is who do you replace him with??? If you don't have a good answer then he stays. Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC.

TwistedTiger · 11-30-2015, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC.

He's going to be the HC at Gawga.

Danno · 11-30-2015, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I don't think he needs to be fired. I don't mind him putting the D in someones hands and holding them responsible but damn lets get it right!

If you do fire Payton the question is who do you replace him with??? If you don't have a good answer then he stays. Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC.

He has the most defensive talent in the entire NCAA to work with, and Saban is actually the mastermind behind that defense. Smart just does his bidding.

A big fat hell no!

Let him prove himself with mediocre talent, then lets talk.

CheramieIII · 11-30-2015, 07:15 PM

Come on guys and gals. What happened to the days of Don Shula, Chuck Nole, George Halas and Tom Landry and don't tell me their over. Sean Payton has brought respect to a team, a city and a people that was long overdue. He should not get fired and we should stop the discussion there. Our team needs us now more than ever and we should at least have the decency to wait until the end of the regular season.

1967-70 Tom Fears* 13-34-2 28.6%
1970-72 J.D. Roberts 7-25-3 24.3%
1973-75 John North** 11-23-0 32.4%
1975 Ernie Hefferle 1-7-0 12.5%
1976-77 Hank Stram 7-21-0 25%
1978-80 Dick Nolan*** 15-29-0 34.1%
1981-85 O.A. (Bum) Phillips**** 27-42-0 39.1%
1985 Wade Phillips 1-3-0 25%
1986-96 Jim Mora # 93-78-0 55.7%
1996 Rick Venturi 1-7-0 12.5%
1997-99 Mike Ditka 15-33-0 31.3%
2000-05 Jim Haslett 46-52-0 46.9%
2006- Sean Payton 73-39-0 65.1%
*Released after seven games in 1970
**Released after six games in 1975
***Released after 12 games in 1980
****Released after 13 games in 1985
#Resigned after eight games in 1996

neugey · 11-30-2015, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Come on guys and gals. What happened to the days of Don Shula, Chuck Nole, George Halas and Tom Landry and don't tell me their over. Sean Payton has brought respect to a team, a city and a people that was long overdue. He should not get fired and we should stop the discussion there. Our team needs us now more than ever and we should at least have the decency to wait until the end of the regular season.

I do agree we should wait until end of season if we decide to move on from Payton.

Seer1 · 11-30-2015, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I do agree we should wait until end of season if we decide to move on from Payton.

Hell no! Let's start kickin' the tires right now. Who really gives a **** about history? Right here, right now.

11-30-2015, 02:25 PM	#81
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Fire Sean Payton soft camp = soft team, yes they train up north but not a 5* resort in the state of the head coach's rumored GF that just happens to be owned by a fan of the team. Since his return, Payton has made questionable call after questionable call. That year away took so much aggression and cockiness away from him jnormand, neugey, hagan714 and 1 others like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by jeanpierre Unless Rita goes base jumping without a chute, she's already won... Tick-tock, Tick-tock for Tommy... Benson didn't lose control of the team, but he can't remove the team from the trust... Tick-tock, Tick-tock... And Gayle will just have to find another old geezer to kanoodle with and bank-roll her "interior decorating" pursuits... Exactly. I wouldn't just assume that the franchise staying here is a given. I'm sure prospective head coaches and free agents aren't.
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11-30-2015, 04:37 PM	#83
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by hagan714 oh course not, just wondering as a group that is all. I am looking for silver lined clouds in the storm of 2016 that is all. I am not at the point house cleaning or jumping from the band wagon season of 2016. I came into this season saying two things. 1 give this team time to gel - injuries slowed that jell down 2 Build for 2017 So I am still chewing on the same things. They just turned out to be a little harder to digest than I was expecting. We got some good players in the draft. The biggest bounce of the year? Rob is gone. we do have some really good young talent, no doubt.

11-30-2015, 06:57 PM	#84
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: Fire Sean Payton I don't think Payton needs to be fired to turn this thing around, but Loomis does. There also needs to be a change in philosophy to build through the draft instead of getting all these washed up free agents. Unfortunately the salary cap mess and Brees contract stop the Saints from getting young quality free agents that they can sign to long term contracts. Winning big while Brees is still here may not be likely. Saints need a total rebuild.
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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Fire Sean Payton I don't think he needs to be fired. I don't mind him putting the D in someones hands and holding them responsible but damn lets get it right! If you do fire Payton the question is who do you replace him with??? If you don't have a good answer then he stays. Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC.

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TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by Euphoria Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC. He's going to be the HC at Gawga.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by Euphoria I don't think he needs to be fired. I don't mind him putting the D in someones hands and holding them responsible but damn lets get it right! If you do fire Payton the question is who do you replace him with??? If you don't have a good answer then he stays. Go get the Alabama D coach as our DC. He has the most defensive talent in the entire NCAA to work with, and Saban is actually the mastermind behind that defense. Smart just does his bidding. A big fat hell no! Let him prove himself with mediocre talent, then lets talk.

11-30-2015, 07:15 PM	#88
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Come on guys and gals. What happened to the days of Don Shula, Chuck Nole, George Halas and Tom Landry and don't tell me their over. Sean Payton has brought respect to a team, a city and a people that was long overdue. He should not get fired and we should stop the discussion there. Our team needs us now more than ever and we should at least have the decency to wait until the end of the regular season. 1967-70 Tom Fears* 13-34-2 28.6% 1970-72 J.D. Roberts 7-25-3 24.3% 1973-75 John North 11-23-0 32.4% 1975 Ernie Hefferle 1-7-0 12.5% 1976-77 Hank Stram 7-21-0 25% 1978-80 Dick Nolan* 15-29-0 34.1% 1981-85 O.A. (Bum) Phillips**** 27-42-0 39.1% 1985 Wade Phillips 1-3-0 25% 1986-96 Jim Mora # 93-78-0 55.7% 1996 Rick Venturi 1-7-0 12.5% 1997-99 Mike Ditka 15-33-0 31.3% 2000-05 Jim Haslett 46-52-0 46.9% 2006- Sean Payton 73-39-0 65.1% Released after seven games in 1970 Released after six games in 1975 Released after 12 games in 1980 **Released after 13 games in 1985 #Resigned after eight games in 1996 jnormand and SloMotion like this.
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11-30-2015, 07:25 PM	#89
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by CheramieIII Come on guys and gals. What happened to the days of Don Shula, Chuck Nole, George Halas and Tom Landry and don't tell me their over. Sean Payton has brought respect to a team, a city and a people that was long overdue. He should not get fired and we should stop the discussion there. Our team needs us now more than ever and we should at least have the decency to wait until the end of the regular season. I do agree we should wait until end of season if we decide to move on from Payton. spkb25 likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by neugey I do agree we should wait until end of season if we decide to move on from Payton. Hell no! Let's start kickin' the tires right now. Who really gives a **** about history? Right here, right now.

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