Fire Sean Payton

ChrisXVI · 11-29-2015, 08:24 PM

One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting.

WillSaints81 · 11-29-2015, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

yes your right about one thing, it is imossible.....put down the beer man j/k

I think things can be done the right way. We will see. Taking a wreaking ball to the team wont solve much. And SP would make Atalnta a playoff contender or if Brees goes with him to Miami them to.

Not all of my keys are working.

WillSaints81 · 11-29-2015, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse.

I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

burningmetal · 11-29-2015, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We should hire the person that really gave us the SB title. Greg Williams!

I think this is at least part sarcasm, but I hope it's full sarcasm. That name makes me want to puke.

WillSaints81 · 11-29-2015, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And you have inside info about the family affairs of the Bensons? Damn dude you should ask for some money.

The competency hearing I heard took away any chance they may have had. The people at SR talked about this often.

Beastmode · 11-29-2015, 08:49 PM

Both sides are anemic. Been that way for a while. I'm fine with moving on because this is going nowhere.

ChrisXVI · 11-29-2015, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Both sides are anemic. Been that way for a while. I'm fine with moving on because this is going nowhere.

That's pretty much how I'm feeling. How many defensive coordinators do we have to go through? Compound that with the fact that our offense is inconsistent and reaching new lows on their bad days and it's clearly time to stop with the complacent coaching.

burningmetal · 11-29-2015, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

Whether you think it's Graham specifically or a big target in general, the point remains the same. You're overlooking the real problem. Ben Watson has taken over as the "big target" and he's been productive, for the most part. The real problem (aside from the obvious offensive line issues) is that Sean isn't fooling anyone with his play design anymore. We were predictable the last couple years from constantly forcing the ball to Jimmy, and now we just send everybody deep, or everyone short.

You don't see any diversity in the routes. Where are the Rub routes, quick screens (not the one's where Drew has to throw the ball 20 yards across the field, and it takes an eternity just to get there), out-routes that are BEYOND the marker, and not these little 3 yard, piece of crap plays?

All that, and Drew continues to make some awful decisions.

neugey · 11-29-2015, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We should hire the person that really gave us the SB title. Greg Williams!

We need to quit looking backward and start looking forward. That is a big part of the franchise's problem right now.

A good up-and-coming NFL defensive assistant would be a fine choice. I wonder if Belichick would let Matt Patricia interview for jobs. Also maybe a college guy could be good. Not a know-it-all like Greg Schiano but someone more like Bill O'Brien.

pherein · 11-29-2015, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting.

Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ?
You serious or have you head up something.
If SP gets the Falcons job he will kick our ass all day, and you know that.

11-29-2015, 08:24 PM	#41
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Fire Sean Payton One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting.

11-29-2015, 08:33 PM	#42
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by pherein yes your right about one thing, it is imossible.....put down the beer man j/k I think things can be done the right way. We will see. Taking a wreaking ball to the team wont solve much. And SP would make Atalnta a playoff contender or if Brees goes with him to Miami them to. Not all of my keys are working.

11-29-2015, 08:37 PM	#43
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by burningmetal Well I was watching the same game as you, on tv. And what you just said has nothing to do with your previous post. Who cares that we COULD have scored two touchdowns? As for Graham... C'mon dude. Are you really still on that? What's he doing for Seattle? Do you remember us scoring 52 points in a game this year? All that "redzone target" stuff is a myth. If you call the right plays you can get guys open. There's no imagination, as I said, and such has been the case for a while now. This offense pretty much put up the SAME numbers last year, WITH Graham. Stop trying to make Jimmy's absence an excuse. I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this.

11-29-2015, 08:37 PM	#44
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by blackangold We should hire the person that really gave us the SB title. Greg Williams! I think this is at least part sarcasm, but I hope it's full sarcasm. That name makes me want to puke. ChrisXVI, darksoul35 and captainshawn like this.

11-29-2015, 08:43 PM	#45
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by The Dude And you have inside info about the family affairs of the Bensons? Damn dude you should ask for some money. The competency hearing I heard took away any chance they may have had. The people at SR talked about this often.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by Beastmode Both sides are anemic. Been that way for a while. I'm fine with moving on because this is going nowhere. That's pretty much how I'm feeling. How many defensive coordinators do we have to go through? Compound that with the fact that our offense is inconsistent and reaching new lows on their bad days and it's clearly time to stop with the complacent coaching.

11-29-2015, 08:54 PM	#48
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'm not hung up on Graham I think you have me confused with TB. I am simply pointing out the fact that a big body would have helped in a game like this. Whether you think it's Graham specifically or a big target in general, the point remains the same. You're overlooking the real problem. Ben Watson has taken over as the "big target" and he's been productive, for the most part. The real problem (aside from the obvious offensive line issues) is that Sean isn't fooling anyone with his play design anymore. We were predictable the last couple years from constantly forcing the ball to Jimmy, and now we just send everybody deep, or everyone short. You don't see any diversity in the routes. Where are the Rub routes, quick screens (not the one's where Drew has to throw the ball 20 yards across the field, and it takes an eternity just to get there), out-routes that are BEYOND the marker, and not these little 3 yard, piece of crap plays? All that, and Drew continues to make some awful decisions.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-29-2015, 08:56 PM	#49
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by blackangold We should hire the person that really gave us the SB title. Greg Williams! We need to quit looking backward and start looking forward. That is a big part of the franchise's problem right now. A good up-and-coming NFL defensive assistant would be a fine choice. I wonder if Belichick would let Matt Patricia interview for jobs. Also maybe a college guy could be good. Not a know-it-all like Greg Schiano but someone more like Bill O'Brien.

11-29-2015, 09:47 PM	#50
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Fire Sean Payton Originally Posted by ChrisXVI One problem pherein... Payton hasn't been one of the best coaches in the league in years. It's not overreacting. Really ? so 2 seasons = bust ? are your serious ? Giants SB, cowboys, and now Saints with a SB and paytons bust ? You serious or have you head up something. If SP gets the Falcons job he will kick our ass all day, and you know that. jnormand and captainshawn like this.

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