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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Really? Interesting ... nothing on Dodd or Lawson? How in the heck could MacKensie not have a college interception at Clemson? Odd. Maybe they avoided him....

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Old 03-10-2016, 10:58 AM   #1
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Really? Interesting ... nothing on Dodd or Lawson?

How in the heck could MacKensie not have a college interception at Clemson? Odd.
Maybe they avoided him.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:36 AM   #2
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Sean Payton and Jeff Ireland had dinner with Mackensie Alexander last night apparently.
The skill set is there to be a solid CB in the NFL but were? I am hard pressed to even talk #1. Number 2 is well within reach it would appear. Keep up on the ball and in the face of WR and you will get the most out of the kid. He is not ready to give up cushion of any kind.

Short 5'10" with 31" arms. But I will give him one thing run-stopping ability is excellent.

Fear of not taking the kid? he might be another Mike McKenzie. just a bit shorter. Question is how good is his football IQ. How much ceiling is still left?

My fear is you will end up drafting a slot CB in the first that may or may not be able to handle bigger stronger NFL WR on the outside.

I would pass at 12

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For two years ? Heck, Sherman is probably the best in the land but they still throw in his direction ... occasionally .

Side note: Did a quick read and I see he had a ton of pass deflections/break ups and what not. I'd prefer a corner who can snag it, change direction and take it to the house. I wonder if he falls to the 2nd round?
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2016 NFL Mock Draft Central - NFL.com

All 'experts' are predicting a DT at pick #12.
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Saints have dinner with several Clemson defenders, set up visit with safety Jayron Kearse.

A large Saints contingent, including Sean Payton, the defensive coaching staff and assistant general manager Jeff Ireland had dinner with cornerback Mackensie Alexander , defensive ends Shaq Lawson and Kevin Dodd, and several other Clemson teammates on Wednesday night, multiple sources told The Advocate.

And at least one former Tiger already has a visit set up with the Saints. Jayron Kearse, a 6-foot-4, 216-pound safety, told local reporters at Clemson that he will visit the Saints, along with the Buccaneers, Lions, Jaguars and Steelers.


Now the mention that the saints set up visit with safety Jayron Kearse of Clemson is interesting.

He is falling like rock as a safety. I still question his mental abilities to handle the safety position much less the obvious the kid has the hips of a white boy at a sock hop. The kid can not flip to save his life. Question is really this, is he really that raw and/or still growing into this 6'4" frame? I am going with growing into that frame vs being that raw. 3 year starter

How quick the media put him as a 1st and how quick the media has dropped him to a 4/5 and still falling. Media hype is fickle and can lead to many a broken hearts.

But as a OLB/SS you might just have something to work with. Plenty of room left to put on 30 or so pounds. I hope they are think along these lines. He has a knack for causing fumbles while actually making tackles at the same time. A trait most of our secondary seems to have no clue how to do. It is one or the other. god knows I hate ball tackles.

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40 4.62
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10 1.62
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Illinois Pro day

WR Geronimo Allison 40 - 4.59 down from 4.67 added an 1 1/2" to vertical
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mine was more on the lines holy ****. At 5'6" 180 his weight to height ratio probably means the kid is a fire plug. actually need to do some more research on this kid. I knew he was fast, in that 4.30 range. But that is holy **** kind of speed. but he is on my priority UDFA list.

then you have his twin also
Deandre Washington 5082 204 4.45 RB/WR/KR on the same club.
Both need to prove they can handle duties at the NFL level to stick IMO. But they both have what Murphy lacks. break away speed. BUT do they have Murphy vision?

round 7 flier to challenge Murphy?

Roto has an interesting statement that makes me wonder how SP would use this kid.

These type of manufactured touch players are very situation dependent, and hopefully Grant lands in the correct one.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/131234/jakeem-grant

You always look for that final gear for a KR/PR/WR but this is insane. this kid has two final gears.

unofficial hand clock speed range was 4.1 to 4.34.


But the area the saints need to improve on special team is coverage. The poor coverage unit is a reflection of the poor depth the saints have at LB. More importantly our gunners. Our gunners are a refection of the saints not putting enough emphases on tackling skills for CB and safeties. You can always bet on the first 4 players down field not making the tackle. By the end of the game you will have extra money in your pocket to burn. That IMO is a main factor in drafting secondary. If they can not tackle I say pass. I hate Ball tacklers. My sister can tackle a ball.

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Jakeem Grant would be a beast on screens, Get Armstead out front for the initial block and see-ya later
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