2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by K Major

Darron Lee, Shaq Lawson could be in play for New Orleans Saints at No. - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN

With a 4.47 40 time, not a surprise his stock is rising.

Jaylon Smith is dropping like a rock

Myles Jack is rumored to have his own recovery issues

Donald Lee while a solid prospect. I just did not see the impact this year to warrant this high of a jump in the rankings much less top 15.

Which means the saints will probably take him.

You thought this was small
Myles Jack OLB UCLA 6011 245 4.56
look at this
Darron Lee OLB Ohio State 6006 232 4.47

IMO his stock has sky rocketed because of injury, the media love for OLB and the fear of missing out on that surprise draft pick. Like over valuing DE because they are the glamor diva of the NFL.

He is a huge reach IMO. some 15 to 30 picks higher than he should be. season end i had him as a high round two.

[jeanpierre]

As high as we're picking, we really need that pick to start from Day 1...

Am still disappointed in Andrus Peat not being able to overtake Zach Strief at the least...

Especially when CB Marcus Peters was on the board and we let him fall to KC...

Imagine being able to pair Marcus Peters with Keenan Lewis AND Delvin Breaux!

[hagan714]

Jalen Ramsey Vs Darron Lee

Jalen Ramsey, FS/CB/OLB Florida State, 6005, 209
Hands 9 1/2 Arms 33 3/8 Wing
40 4.41
20 2.57
10 1.51
3 Cone 6.94
20 Shuttle 4.18
60 Shuttle 11.10
Bench 14
Vertical 41.5
Broad 135

Darron Lee OLB/SS Ohio State 6006 232 4.47
Hands 9 3/4 Arms 33 1/4 Wing
40 4.47
20 2.60
10 1.54
3 Cone 7.12
20 Shuttle 4.20
60 Shuttle
Bench 17
Vertical 35 1/2
Broad 133

They are mirror images of each other. The only difference is Ramsey has coverage skill that make him a great FS. Lee does not so he is IMO a SS playing LB. He would be an upgrade to KV probably. If Lee had better ball skills, which he may have, then I would be open to the idea a little bit more. If you are drafting a safety this high he better have ball skills.

Want a boobie prize on day 2 of the draft? here you go Ramsey clone #3

Sean Davis S/CB Maryland 6011 201
Hands 9 1/2 Arms 31 3/8 Wing
40 4.46
20 2.60
10 1.56
3 Cone 6.64
20 Shuttle 3.97
60 Shuttle 11.53
Bench 21
Vertical 37.5
Broad 126

SS or FS makes no difference. Line him up next to Byrd day 1. Ball hawk, solid tackler and creates fumbles. Saints get the second best FS/SS/CB in the draft behind Ramsey. He is the next best thing to Ramsey in the draft and might be there in round 3. Put 20 to 30 more pounds on the kid and you have a poor mans Lee at OLB but this time he has coverage and ball skills. Which in my opinion is a waste, just like playing him at CB last year. FSU did the same stupid thing.

I really like this kid. He did much better at the combine than I thought he would and would not be surprised to see him go in round 2. If the saints went this route I would be happy and have a big crow in freezer ready to eat. wait I still have my Rob crow so I am all set.

[jeanpierre]

The 2013 NFL Class was a supposed deep class at safety...

Three were taken in the first round alone (Vaccaro, Reid, Elam)...

And Jacksonville took Jonathan Cyprien at the top of the second...

Other than Reid, most have had little, if any, individual impact...

Every other year we hear about this deep, class of defensive linemen...

This year's class is no different, many are ranked way too high...

I find patience in the draft when the position is deep with talent is better...

In the 2012 draft, Denver GM Elway felt the position was deep and waited...

He selected DE Derek Wolfe in round 2 and Malik Jackson in round 5...

We should show the same patience with regards to this deep DL draft...

[jeanpierre]

Good Read: Behind the curtain: An all-access pass to the Saints at the 2016 NFL Combine

[hagan714]

needs should never be the driving force in a draft. it is just a guide at best.

bpa baby bpa

it will sort itself out in a couple of years.

[jeanpierre]

(excerpt) Here are the 10 pro days to watch heading into the 2016 NFL Draft
By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com
March 6, 2016 2:46 pm ET

Here are the top 10 pro days to watch:

Alabama, March 9: QB Jacob Coker, DT Jarran Reed, ILB Reggie Ragland

Who to Watch and Why:...

Clemson, March 10: CB Mackensie Alexander, DE Kevin Dodd...

Ohio State, March 11: DE Joey Bosa, RB Ezekiel Elliott, CB Eli Apple, SS Vonn Bell...

UCLA, March 15: OLB Myles Jack...

Arkansas, March 16: TE Hunter Henry, RB Jonathan Williams, RB Alex Collins...

Baylor, March 16: WR Corey Coleman, DT Andrew Billings, DE Shawn Oakman...

California, March 18: QB Jared Goff, WR Kenny Lawler...

USC, March 23: OLB Sua Cravens, C Max Tuerk...

Utah, March 24: RB Devontae Booker...

Mississippi, March 28: WR Laquon Treadwell, OT Laremy Tunsil, DT Robert Nkemdiche...


Source: Here are the 10 pro days to watch heading into the 2016 NFL Draft - CBSSports.com

[jeanpierre]

http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMeetings/ByTeam

(excerpt update)

New Orleans Saints

No. 1 Team Need
Defensive Tackle

See the other needs ...

Joey Bosa, DE/3-4OLB, Ohio State (COM)

Michael Caputo, S, Wisconsin (EW)

Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech (SR)

Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (EW)

Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois (EW)

Chris Jones, DT/3-4DE, Mississippi State (COM)

Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis (COM)

Ross Martin, K, Duke (SR)

Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama (SR)

Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (COM)

Brandon Shell, OT, South Carolina (EW)

Noah Spence, OLB/DE/3-4OLB, Eastern Kentucky (SR)

Chris Swain, FB, Navy (SR)

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/ProspectMe...2Tm2ck5AE7r.99

[jeanpierre]

Teams Grading Xavien Howard in the Early Rounds
Updated Feb. 23, 2016
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Every year, there are some early-entry players in the NFL Draft who go under the radar with the media despite teams being impressed with them. In speaking with sources at five different teams, Baylor cornerback Xavien Howard would fit that description this year. All five teams had Howard graded in the first three rounds, with some being very bullish about his NFL prospects. No team had Howard lower than an early third-round pick.

One team picking in the top 10 said they have a first-round grade on Howard and project him going late in the first. Another playoff team said they had Howard graded as a high second-round pick. Two other teams said they had Howard on the bubble of the second and third round. Those were the lowest grades on Howard among the five teams. The fifth team saw him as a mid second-round pick.

Sources say they wouldn't be surprised if Howard becomes a hot name at or after the NFL Scouting Combine. The 6-foot-2, 200-pounder has great size, and teams are impressed with his 2015 tape. As a junior, Howard totaled 42 tackles with 10 breakups and five interceptions for the Bears. He isn't a one-year wonder either. In 2014, he had 51 stops with 13 breakups and four interceptions.

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[jeanpierre]

Teams Don't View Laquon Treadwell as a Top-10 Talent
Updated Feb. 5, 2016
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Over the past two seasons, the NFL Draft has produced some strong classes of wide receivers. This year, the draft isn't as strong at wideout, but that hasn't stopped the media from hyping up Ole Miss wide receiver Laquon Treadwell. It isn't surprising, as Treadwell was a star recruit coming out of high school, and he was a 3-year producer at Ole Miss. There have been lofty comparisons with Treadwell to other elite receiver prospects, but NFL teams aren't grading Treadwell that high. In fact, most of the teams we've spoken to have Treadwell as a late first-rounder, with only one saying they have him as mid first-round pick.

The teams that are grading Treadwell as a late first-rounder say whoever likes him enough to draft him might do so in the middle of the first round. A general manger of a playoff team believes that Treadwell is a little overrated, and he views him as a big, strong, possession receiver in the NFL. Two other teams said they had Treadwell as a late first-rounder. One college scouting director said Treadwell could go in the mid first because this a weak year for receivers and teams will draft out of need at the position.

The reason that teams aren't as high on Treadwell as the hype machine is a lack of speed to separate. They view Treadwell as a big, strong, long, possession receiver with good hands. He routinely uses his size and strength beat defensive backs for 50-50 passes. However, he isn't fast or explosive. He isn't a vertical threat to stretch a defense over the top. If Treadwell had speed, he'd be similar to Julio Jones or A.J. Green and a top 10-pick. Teams say they aren't expecting Treadwell to run fast at the Combine.

The team that has Treadwell graded as a mid first-round pick, and liked him more than others, believes he has some characteristics similar to the Texans' DeAndre Hopkins in the ability to win 50-50 passes. Hopkins was a late first-rounder in the 2013 NFL Draft, but Houston clearly out-scouted the rest of the league, as Hopkins is one of the best players to come out of that draft class.

If the 6-foot-2, 229-pound Treadwell runs well at the Combine, it could help to change some minds and push his draft grade higher. Right now, teams see him in the middle to back half of the picks on Thursday night with a grade of a late first-rounder being held by many teams.

Read more at WalterFootball.com: NFL Draft Rumor Mill