2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by blackangold

Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2.

OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd.

Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have.

Black, there's no way Cooks, in his diminitive size, will be a No. 1; Great character, attitude, phenomenal talent; but when he had to body-up he couldn't convert against more physical defensive backs, it just didn't get done...

I advocated drafting Coleman, but the guy has stone hands and simply can't be trusted in that same situation to go up and get the ball and convert critical third downs...

We've got to get the safety play to improve and shut down those big pass plays that kill us; Byrd can't stay healthy and on the field; Vaccaro, well, he just seems like a real stupid player with bone-headed personal fouls and late assignment pickups (Harper was just slow in his); the guys whose names I've posted would be there when we pick and that's why I've got 'em there...

I think we could have a great, honest pass rush if we schemed and got ALL our pass rushers on the field - and the 3-4, which many of them are the fit, would do that...

Glad to hear we agree on Guard and Tight End; I think this'll be a deep tight end class and my guy will probably move up after the combine, pro days...

[SaintFanInATLHELL]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Black, there's no way Cooks, in his diminitive size, will be a No. 1; Great character, attitude, phenomenal talent; but when he had to body-up he couldn't convert against more physical defensive backs, it just didn't get done...

Brandin Cooks: 5'10" 189 lbs
Antonio Brown: 5'10" 181 lbs

It's not the size that defines a #1 receiver.

SFIAH

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Brandin Cooks: 5'10" 189 lbs
Antonio Brown: 5'10" 181 lbs

It's not the size that defines a #1 receiver.

SFIAH

True enough but to date Cook is no Brown.

I have not given up on the kid that's for sure. But this brings me back the need to address OG play.

OG play the past two years has gone down hill dramatically. If Drew is to remain the QB the saints have little choice but start looking for youth up front via the draft or FA. Litto can run block but he still can not handle a stunt to save his life. It appears Evens is on his final legs. I see no choice. The saints FINALLY made the move to add an OT so why hold off a glaring need at OG? We have a long list of upgrades that consist of a single piece and not upgrades that address a unit. Saints need to be in overhaul mode on the OL and pray non of the 2017 FA money will be spent up front. as Drew goes so do the saints.

Drew's height dictates the need for a good front 3. Drew needs a pocket to pass from like any QB but he must be able to step up into the pocket and move around to get away.

Big Ben gets away with a so so line because he is, well big. That is a huge factor in Browns success. Short and mid range throws are all down hill. Huge advantage.

Cook has never played with the saints when the front 3 OL were dominate and helped maximize Drew skill set. If he gets that chance he may just become a Brown and #1. Till then we will never know.

FA or draft, OG must be upgraded. There are upgrades out there that do not break the bank in FA. Litto as a developing back up and dumping the dead wood on the depth chart would be solid move. Draft will present some solid options also.

All of this will keep Drew up right and allow Cook the chance to thrive.

Once again a year late at the bargain basement FA shopping. My two favs from last year bin are not going to come near as cheap

G Evan Mathis, Denver Broncos - might because of age. He is solid and steady and not that much tread wear despite his age. 5+ years as a back up

G Richie Incognito, Buffalo Bills - blew this one completely. model citizen and buffalo and blew the doors of the NFL

Draft I still like the two coke machines from Arkansas. it still early yet

so we need to look deeper or to the draft to help Drew get the most out of Cook

[halloween 65]

Originally Posted by hagan714

True enough but to date Cook is no Brown.

I have not given up on the kid that's for sure. But this brings me back the need to address OG play.

OG play the past two years has gone down hill dramatically. If Drew is to remain the QB the saints have little choice but start looking for youth up front via the draft or FA. Litto can run block but he still can not handle a stunt to save his life. It appears Evens is on his final legs. I see no choice. The saints FINALLY made the move to add an OT so why hold off a glaring need at OG? We have a long list of upgrades that consist of a single piece and not upgrades that address a unit. Saints need to be in overhaul mode on the OL and pray non of the 2017 FA money will be spent up front. as Drew goes so do the saints.

Drew's height dictates the need for a good front 3. Drew needs a pocket to pass from like any QB but he must be able to step up into the pocket and move around to get away.

Big Ben gets away with a so so line because he is, well big. That is a huge factor in Browns success. Short and mid range throws are all down hill. Huge advantage.

Cook has never played with the saints when the front 3 OL were dominate and helped maximize Drew skill set. If he gets that chance he may just become a Brown and #1. Till then we will never know.

FA or draft, OG must be upgraded. There are upgrades out there that do not break the bank in FA. Litto as a developing back up and dumping the dead wood on the depth chart would be solid move. Draft will present some solid options also.

All of this will keep Drew up right and allow Cook the chance to thrive.

Once again a year late at the bargain basement FA shopping. My two favs from last year bin are not going to come near as cheap

G Evan Mathis, Denver Broncos - might because of age. He is solid and steady and not that much tread wear despite his age. 5+ years as a back up

G Richie Incognito, Buffalo Bills - blew this one completely. model citizen and buffalo and blew the doors of the NFL

Draft I still like the two coke machines from Arkansas. it still early yet

so we need to look deeper or to the draft to help Drew get the most out of Cook

Incognito would have looked good in a Saints uniform, tough guy. I like the G from Arkansas also but like the T from LSU , Alexander also , to move to G. Either 3 would be good enough to man that position for years. I'm really hoping Peat works out at RT and Lelito could be a swing man at C and G in a pinch. I believe Lelito is better as a C than a G but he want beat Unger out. Even if we sign a FA I still draft one of those 3. TE will need to be adressed also. Watson has been a more than solid pick-up and I hope we get good results this season but youth will be needed sooner than later.