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44Champs 04-11-2016 09:34 PM
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I wonder if the Saints will consider retiring Will's #

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The Dude 04-11-2016 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 699106)
Seriously?! Innocent until proven guilty right? Just the fact that he's the only one with the gun and an eye witness who he shot survived... Or the fact that he chased down Will after his car was supposedly hit; I guess that was a decent excuse to pull a gun :rolleyes:
there is rarely a decent excuse to pull out a gun. We just dont have all the facts. Yes it looks guilty and I think he is but that is my specutlation BUT, I will always try to wait until all the facts come out to form and opinion. There is too much emotion and too little information right now for me to do that. Many policeman and citizens have had to use self defense to protect themselves. The court of public opinion will portray it as murder only to find out later there was more to the story. It often leads to people jumping to conclusions which starts riots that ultimately cause more violence.

|Mitch| 04-11-2016 10:20 PM
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Many policeman and citizens have had to use self defense to protect themselves.
Self-Defense when Will was shot in the back, something like 5 times? Sitting in the drivers seat might I add...

Halo 04-11-2016 10:24 PM
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Self-Defense when Will was shot in the back, something like 5 times?
That's the part I can't get out of my head... all the conspiracies and two gun theories be damned. Shot in the back 5 times.... :confused: Self defense? Really??

|Mitch| 04-11-2016 11:16 PM
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The thing that gets to me, it was reported he didn't know Smith... Just shot him through the window without seeing his face or what?! :confused:

|Mitch| 04-11-2016 11:38 PM
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Even then, call the police and your insurance company, don't chase the hit & runner down and shoot him... :rolleyes:

Still claiming self-defense

dizzle88 04-12-2016 06:50 AM
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SmashMouth 04-12-2016 06:53 AM
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Surveillance video near Will Smith shooting shows possible hit and run

The Dude 04-12-2016 09:37 AM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 699123)
That's the part I can't get out of my head... all the conspiracies and two gun theories be damned. Shot in the back 5 times.... :confused: Self defense? Really??
I don't think it was self defense. Hayes actually went back to his car to get the gun. That right there throws out self defense. If the threat had calmed to the point he was able to go back to his car then he could have either stayed there or fled for his life.

The Dude 04-12-2016 09:39 AM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 699131)
The thing that gets to me, it was reported he didn't know Smith... Just shot him through the window without seeing his face or what?! :confused:
That's BS from what I understand the were both drafted by the Saints the same year and Smith was good friends with the man who shot and killed Hayes father in self defense. At the very least Hayes knew Smith. I think there was more to it than simply road rage


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