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The Dude 04-12-2016 10:41 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 699294)
Will Smith was not in his car, he was walking toward his car I assume since he was shot in the back and side. Yes, he died in his car after being shot outside the car I assume. I am waiting to see all the facts. By will smith claiming to get his gun and have a loaded gun in his car can be perceive as a threat. If Hayes got out his car with his gun and approached will smith then you absolutely correct stand your ground will not apply

In the United States, a stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) is a law that authorizes an individual to protect and defend their own life and limb against threat or perceived threat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
im well aware of the gun laws here in Louisiana. Unlike you who makes an assumption and posts that "carrying a loaded gun is illegal"

And Wikipedia is NOT an accurate site. Anyone can add to it. Again another example of people not knowing how to obtain factual information. Guns are serious and in the wrong, uneducated hands can easily take a life. One of the most important part of safety is being educated. We wouldn't need more gun laws if people would take the time to know the laws that already exist.

SmashMouth 04-13-2016 08:16 AM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Cordell's passenger says his life was saved that evening

|Mitch| 04-13-2016 09:37 AM
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Crusader 04-13-2016 09:40 AM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Fully loaded handgun found in Will Smith's vehicle, but no evidence weapon was fired, police say

SmashMouth 04-13-2016 11:47 AM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Lawyer for Cardell Hayes’ passenger calls killing of Will Smith “justifiable homicide” | ProFootballTalk

NonieT 04-13-2016 12:36 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Nothing justified about being shot 8 times.

The Dude 04-13-2016 02:16 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 699354)
Nothing justified about being shot 8 times.
If you are shooting in self defense you don't just shoot once and stop to see if it stopped the aggressor or not. If you are shooting in self defense you continue to pull the trigger until the threat is over or you are out of ammo and then stop. It's not like he had to take the time to reload and then shoot again.

That being said I don't see the self defense excuse will hold water. He went back to his car to get his gun and then reapproached Smith. If a smart person walks up to someone's car and that person says he had a gun the smart person will retreat. Only someone who wants to prove that he is a bad ass would go back to their car to get a gun and reengage the person.

jeanpierre 04-13-2016 02:39 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Two shots, eight shots, can be understood in a stressful situation...

Again, refer to earlier post...

Cardell Hayes followed Will Smith down before running into the back of him and summarily executing him...

That is not justifiable, that is Murder two...

Have they written the taxpayer check yet for that BS settlement?!? May want to delay that check...

nola_swammi 04-13-2016 03:39 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 699295)
im well aware of the gun laws here in Louisiana. Unlike you who makes an assumption and posts that "carrying a loaded gun is illegal"

And Wikipedia is NOT an accurate site. Anyone can add to it. Again another example of people not knowing how to obtain factual information. Guns are serious and in the wrong, uneducated hands can easily take a life. One of the most important part of safety is being educated. We wouldn't need more gun laws if people would take the time to know the laws that already exist.
Dude, I am just trying to enlighten you on what I discovered about stand your ground law, I am not a lawyer, or your librarian to find out the facts about the law, if you have any FACTS to refute what I am saying please post a link, I have no problem putting up links even if I find out what I am saying is wrong. I am trying to stop going on and on about the subject cause how sensitive this subject is. I DON'T LIKE THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW since it does seem to biased. I wasn't going to reply til you edited your post about Wikipedia.

hagan714 04-13-2016 03:53 PM
Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
Ok so the guy who wins millions says it is self defense and his buddy says the same thing, big surprise there. They knew cameras were all over the area so they played it smart. Old game been done 1000 times before.

now for the other side of the story

Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot

Before former Saints star Will Smith was shot and killed Saturday night, Smith's wife, Racquel, was shot once in each leg, according to the family's attorney, Peter Thomson.

Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot - NFL.com


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