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spkb25 04-14-2016 04:07 AM

Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
I saw his press conference too. I don't believe a word he says only because of my experience with defense attorneys.

jeanpierre 04-14-2016 08:30 AM

Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 699411)
Good luck finding an unbiased jury...

That's not the point...

The Orleans Parish Legal System is inept, depraved and corrupt; with surging murder statistics, there should be a higher capital murder, murder one, conviction rate and yet the OPLS is among the worst in the nation; and so murderers go unchecked, experienced for their next vileness making building cases for conviction even less likely...

|Mitch| 04-14-2016 01:05 PM

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SloMotion 04-14-2016 02:23 PM

Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 699433)
That's not the point...

The Orleans Parish Legal System is inept, depraved and corrupt; with surging murder statistics, there should be a higher capital murder, murder one, conviction rate and yet the OPLS is among the worst in the nation; and so murderers go unchecked, experienced for their next vileness making building cases for conviction even less likely...

I saw this story a couple days before this shooting happened and wonder if a lack of state appointed defense attorneys led to the 2nd degree murder charge vs 1st degree ... http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com...to-defend-them ... it seemed like they could hold a suspect longer under 2nd degree without appointing a state attorney vs 1st degree, #shrug.

WhoDat!656 04-14-2016 09:36 PM

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Louisiana “stand your ground” law looms over Will Smith killing | ProFootballTalk

nola_swammi 04-15-2016 02:50 AM

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That law need to be done away with. That law is giving individuals the right to be the judge, jury, and executioner. Don't think that once it get to jury they will look at this action as overkill and throw the book at individual, in most cases a person with high incomes or white killing black will have the case thrown out before it ever see a jury because of "stand your ground". Anytime someone take a person life it should be mandatory that it go to trial if the defendant proclaims self defense. The only acception to the stand your ground law should be if you defending your home.

jeanpierre 04-15-2016 06:01 AM

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Again, it's not stand your ground when Cardell Hayes chased him down (video evidence) and then executed him...

And those laws are necessary; and don't think they don't weigh on the minds of career street thugs...

My concern is an Orleans Parish Legal System that often gets it wrong...

The Dude 04-15-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 699555)
That law need to be done away with. That law is giving individuals the right to be the judge, jury, and executioner. Don't think that once it get to jury they will look at this action as overkill and throw the book at individual, in most cases a person with high incomes or white killing black will have the case thrown out before it ever see a jury because of "stand your ground". Anytime someone take a person life it should be mandatory that it go to trial if the defendant proclaims self defense. The only acception to the stand your ground law should be if you defending your home.

It's not the law that's a problem. The problem is when people don't understand what the law says but try and use it anyway.

The Dude 04-15-2016 12:08 PM

Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident
 
And just because you have the right to defend yourself with a firearm doesn't mean it's morally right or even the smart thing to do. Your first option should be fleeing, if you can. A firearm is the last resort when you have no other choice. If you take a life, even in self defense it will change your life forever.
Hayes could have easily stayed in his car when he went back for his gun. If he had we wouldn't be having this discussion.

WhoDat!656 04-15-2016 05:46 PM

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Can you imagine the hand wringing if Smith had been killed with an 'assault-style' weapon?


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