Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity

The Dude · 06-05-2016, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Look I didn't say Brees didn't do anything for the Saints or the city. I'm saying that the Saints don't have the money, period. That Drew needs to recognize what we really did for him. If we hadn't sign him NO ONE ELSE WOULD HAVE and you think that wasn't a lot?

I think it's time for Drew to consider taking a lower salary, NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!

and if the Broncos want to pay that then let them have at it. I'm not going to worry about 10 years from now when we need to worry about today and the Saints current situation.

Why on earth does it matter to you how much he gets paid? It's not your money. If he gets a new deal it will be front loaded and cap friendly, plus the cap goes up next year AND a lot of the dead money we have now will be done with.
It has no effect on the teams ability to sign players in the future.
You take this way too personal, but I am sure you would walk up to your boss and say "hey boss, I know I am worth more but I would like to take a pay cut or forgo my next raise for the good of the company. I think you are paying too much out of pocket for my salary"

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Why on earth does it matter to you how much he gets paid? It's not your money. If he gets a new deal it will be front loaded and cap friendly, plus the cap goes up next year AND a lot of the dead money we have now will be done with.
It has no effect on the teams ability to sign players in the future.
You take this way too personal, but I am sure you would walk up to your boss and say "hey boss, I know I am worth more but I would like to take a pay cut or forgo my next raise for the good of the company. I think you are paying too much out of pocket for my salary"

This seems obvious to most, but our friend here is one of the irrational few that cannot accept reality.

CheramieIII · 06-05-2016, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This seems obvious to most, but our friend here is one of the irrational few that cannot accept reality.

Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion.

Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT.

An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million."

On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics.

CheramieIII · 06-05-2016, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT.

An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million."

On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics.

Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2016, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football.

Yes, stated that way it is your opinion and it is also not reality based upon the absolute definition of market value. It is your right to believe in something that is in all actuality false, as illogical as that may be.

06-05-2016, 11:24 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Look I didn't say Brees didn't do anything for the Saints or the city. I'm saying that the Saints don't have the money, period. That Drew needs to recognize what we really did for him. If we hadn't sign him NO ONE ELSE WOULD HAVE and you think that wasn't a lot? I think it's time for Drew to consider taking a lower salary, NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL! and if the Broncos want to pay that then let them have at it. I'm not going to worry about 10 years from now when we need to worry about today and the Saints current situation. Why on earth does it matter to you how much he gets paid? It's not your money. If he gets a new deal it will be front loaded and cap friendly, plus the cap goes up next year AND a lot of the dead money we have now will be done with. It has no effect on the teams ability to sign players in the future. You take this way too personal, but I am sure you would walk up to your boss and say "hey boss, I know I am worth more but I would like to take a pay cut or forgo my next raise for the good of the company. I think you are paying too much out of pocket for my salary" AsylumGuido likes this.
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06-05-2016, 11:27 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by The Dude Why on earth does it matter to you how much he gets paid? It's not your money. If he gets a new deal it will be front loaded and cap friendly, plus the cap goes up next year AND a lot of the dead money we have now will be done with. It has no effect on the teams ability to sign players in the future. You take this way too personal, but I am sure you would walk up to your boss and say "hey boss, I know I am worth more but I would like to take a pay cut or forgo my next raise for the good of the company. I think you are paying too much out of pocket for my salary" This seems obvious to most, but our friend here is one of the irrational few that cannot accept reality.

06-05-2016, 12:27 PM	#3
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This seems obvious to most, but our friend here is one of the irrational few that cannot accept reality. Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion.

06-05-2016, 12:46 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Reality. come on Guido you've been out there a few times yourself and like I said everyone has their own opinion. Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT. An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million." On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics. spkb25 likes this.

06-05-2016, 12:54 PM	#5
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Market value is not an opinion. It is an economic FACT. An opinion is stating something like, "Personally, I don't think any player is worth $25 million." On the other hand, stating, "NO PLAYER IS WORTH 25 MILLION A YEAR TO PLAY FOOTBALL!," is not an opinion. It is stated as fact and you know darned well that very soon there will be dozens of players making just that. Reality is and always has been and always will be that actual worth or value is set by what the free and open market is willing to bear. It is one of the most basic principles of economics. Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football. jnormand likes this.

06-05-2016, 01:02 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Notes and observations from Thursday’s organized team activity Originally Posted by CheramieIII Just because clubs choose to pay players the so called market value that doesn't mean my opinion about it is wrong it's still my opinion that no one is worth 25 million to play football. Yes, stated that way it is your opinion and it is also not reality based upon the absolute definition of market value. It is your right to believe in something that is in all actuality false, as illogical as that may be. spkb25 likes this.

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