Mayberry was a good pick-up.

GumboBC · 03-05-2005, 09:05 PM

Jermane Mayberry wasn't on most anyone's radar when free-agency began. And when word got out that the Saints were interested in Mayberry, many questioned why the Saints were interested in a Guard when we needed to be focusing on RT.

While right guard is Mayberry's natural positon, he has starting experience at every postion along the offensive line. Except at center.

While with the Eagles, Mayberry opened 65 games at right guard, 17 at left tackle, 10 at left guard and four at right tackle.

It's unclear what position Mayberry will play on the Saints' offensive line as there are still reports the Saints are interested in RT Fred Miller.

If Mayberry is asked to play RT, it's not like he doesn't haven't experience there. In fact, not only does he have experience at RT, he's played 17-games at left tackle. Considering the Saints really don't have anyone with starting experience at LT, if Wayne Gandy should go down, the addition of Mayberry will look even better.

papz · 03-05-2005, 09:27 PM

Stop lying to yourself

, he\'s not going to replace our RG... . 4 games at right tackle. I\'m pretty sure he\'ll be fine there though. After looking at his size, he looks like he\'ll hold his own especially since he\'s played left tackle before. I can\'t believe you write off Jacox after one year. Why not right off Holland since he was a 4th rounder? Sigh. Watch when Deuce rushes for 1500 yards again, you\'ll change your mind in a heartbeat.

If we were to sign Miller also, that would probably eat up all of our 8 million dollar cap. A defensive player seems more likely ala Smith, a safety in which is a need. We also need to free up money for our draft picks. Hopefully we can move Howard soon to free up some more cap space for Deuce\'s or Horn\'s extension if needed.

JKool · 03-05-2005, 09:41 PM

One of the scouting reports I was looking at says that Mayberry has some trouble in space and against speed rushers. I think at Guard he is a serious improvement, and RT it is uncertain that he is an upgrade from Riley (though, I suspect, that Mayberry\'s hearing and timing is better).

I\'d like us to still bring in an OT (cough Womack cough or Miller cough). Jacox is solid, and with Holland as a back up, we\'re looking considerably better at OL.

When all this started, I would have liked to see Gandy replaced too, but he is servicable, especially if we can solidify the rest of the line (and given how things have been going, I can\'t say I\'m unhappy that we have Gandy to start).

papz · 03-05-2005, 09:42 PM

Only problem with that is Holland is better than Jacox, and not by much.

JKool · 03-05-2005, 09:43 PM

Holland can start then and Jacox can back him up.

Here is the link to the stuff on Mayberry that I just mentioned:
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=196&p=8&c=1&nid=1391342

FireVenturi · 03-05-2005, 10:44 PM

One of the scouting reports I was looking at says that Mayberry has some trouble in space and against speed rushers. I think at Guard he is a serious improvement, and RT it is uncertain that he is an upgrade from Riley (though, I suspect, that Mayberry\'s hearing and timing is better).

I\'d like us to still bring in an OT (cough Womack cough or Miller cough). Jacox is solid, and with Holland as a back up, we\'re looking considerably better at OL.

When all this started, I would have liked to see Gandy replaced too, but he is servicable, especially if we can solidify the rest of the line (and given how things have been going, I can\'t say I\'m unhappy that we have Gandy to start).

I agree that Mayberry will be much better at G than at T.

LKelley67 · 03-06-2005, 01:38 AM

i hope he was cheap enough and can end up being a good pickup whatever spot he ends up at. i have one unsettled thought though...
he was the starting guard for the eagles in 12 games last year. the arkansas boy might be ready to supplant him fo sho. but if he is such a leader and so versatile why wouldn\'t the eagles make a stronger attempt to keep him? in the latest cap chart they have the 3rd most available money and do not have glaring holes to spend big on. he was drafted at tackle but was moved to guard. lineman don\'t go from the high paying tackle position to the bottom of the barrel offensive pay at guard cuz they have more talent. that said, it is hard to imagine even him not having a better year than riley last season. if they get him to be a starting tackle it is not without risk though. it reminds me of tebucky. haslett saw something that overshadowed the strong weak tackling rep that he had. at that time i thought, why would defensive minded belicheck let a stud that wasn\'t sky high in pay get away? bubblebutt is another player that they seemed to go after seeing way more than anyone else did. here i ask, why would the also cap saavy eagles let this guy, who was a vital cog the past few years, get away with little, if any, effort to resign him when they have bucks to burn? i am not wanting to grind an axe on the dude, but it also reminds me of gandy. it is just the age when they don\'t get better. smarter? yes. good locker room presence? maybe. veteran from a championship caliber team? yes. ever slowing legs? the report already sez he has probs with quick guys, so definitely not faster. as said, if cheap enough, okay sure, add some depth with a veteran from 4 straight nfc crowns. i just hope they didn\'t overpay for a backup lineman or stretching a guy to starter at not his best position.

[Edited on 6/3/2005 by LKelley67]

LKelley67 · 03-06-2005, 02:00 AM

okay, some from the eagles homepage. seems he was a high positive impact guy in the community...

After nine seasons, the last two injury riddled, as one of the foundations of the team\'s offensive line, guard Jermane Mayberry agreed to terms Saturday on a four-year contract with the New Orleans Saints.
Mayberry was the team\'s first-round draft pick out of Texas A&M-Kingsville in 1996. With his first NFL playcheck, Mayberry teamed up with Eagles Youth Partnership executive director Sarah Martinez-Helfman to start the Eagles Eye Mobile program.

The program has grown since its inception and has donated free eye examinations and glasses to over 10,000 children in the Philadelphia area.

On the field, Mayberry started a total of 94 regular season games as an Eagles. He played at every position on the offensive line during his career except center. He became most comfortable at the right guard spot where he was named to the 2002 Pro Bowl team.

But the 31-year old Mayberry has been worn down by injuries in the last two seasons. He has missed a total of nine games in those two seasons with numerous ailments.

The Eagles drafted Shawn Andrews in the first round last year and were going to place Andrews at the right guard position and move Mayberry to left guard. But after Andrews broke his leg in the season opener, Mayberry moved back to the right side.

Between Andrews\' recovery, the emergence of former rookie free agent Artis Hicks and a bevy of young offensive linemen waiting in the wings, the Eagles were content to allow Mayberry explore his options in free agency.

mutineer10 · 03-06-2005, 10:58 AM

(Cue weird music and George Orwell voice)

That\'s right ... repeat after Has. \"Mayberry was a good pickup. Mayberry was a good pickup. Mayberry (you\'re) was (getting) a (sleepy) good (sleepy) pickup. Mayberry (you\'re getting) was (sleepy) a (sleepy) good ... uuhhhh.\"

Now ... remain the docile, thoughtless Saints fan we want you to be. WE will tell you what the team needs, when the team needs it, and how much you will like the pickup. No matter how stupid our picks are in April, you will come here and post how excellent our draft was. WE know what you need, all we need you to do is keep spending your hard-earned money on our inferior product.

When you see the dancing monkey, you may return to your pathetic little life. 3... 2... 1...

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saintswhodi · 03-06-2005, 12:10 PM

MAyberry was a good.....blink blink, hey, I ain\'t falling for that. :P That was funny mutey. Damn them Saints. :casstet:

03-05-2005, 09:05 PM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Mayberry was a good pick-up. Jermane Mayberry wasn't on most anyone's radar when free-agency began. And when word got out that the Saints were interested in Mayberry, many questioned why the Saints were interested in a Guard when we needed to be focusing on RT. While right guard is Mayberry's natural positon, he has starting experience at every postion along the offensive line. Except at center. While with the Eagles, Mayberry opened 65 games at right guard, 17 at left tackle, 10 at left guard and four at right tackle. It's unclear what position Mayberry will play on the Saints' offensive line as there are still reports the Saints are interested in RT Fred Miller. If Mayberry is asked to play RT, it's not like he doesn't haven't experience there. In fact, not only does he have experience at RT, he's played 17-games at left tackle. Considering the Saints really don't have anyone with starting experience at LT, if Wayne Gandy should go down, the addition of Mayberry will look even better.
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03-05-2005, 09:27 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Mayberry was a good pick-up. Stop lying to yourself , he\'s not going to replace our RG... . 4 games at right tackle. I\'m pretty sure he\'ll be fine there though. After looking at his size, he looks like he\'ll hold his own especially since he\'s played left tackle before. I can\'t believe you write off Jacox after one year. Why not right off Holland since he was a 4th rounder? Sigh. Watch when Deuce rushes for 1500 yards again, you\'ll change your mind in a heartbeat. If we were to sign Miller also, that would probably eat up all of our 8 million dollar cap. A defensive player seems more likely ala Smith, a safety in which is a need. We also need to free up money for our draft picks. Hopefully we can move Howard soon to free up some more cap space for Deuce\'s or Horn\'s extension if needed.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

03-05-2005, 09:41 PM	#3
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Mayberry was a good pick-up. One of the scouting reports I was looking at says that Mayberry has some trouble in space and against speed rushers. I think at Guard he is a serious improvement, and RT it is uncertain that he is an upgrade from Riley (though, I suspect, that Mayberry\'s hearing and timing is better). I\'d like us to still bring in an OT (cough Womack cough or Miller cough). Jacox is solid, and with Holland as a back up, we\'re looking considerably better at OL. When all this started, I would have liked to see Gandy replaced too, but he is servicable, especially if we can solidify the rest of the line (and given how things have been going, I can\'t say I\'m unhappy that we have Gandy to start).
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03-05-2005, 09:42 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Mayberry was a good pick-up. Only problem with that is Holland is better than Jacox, and not by much.

03-05-2005, 09:43 PM	#5
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Mayberry was a good pick-up. Holland can start then and Jacox can back him up. Here is the link to the stuff on Mayberry that I just mentioned: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=196&p=8&c=1&nid=1391342

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03-05-2005, 10:44 PM	#6
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Mayberry was a good pick-up. One of the scouting reports I was looking at says that Mayberry has some trouble in space and against speed rushers. I think at Guard he is a serious improvement, and RT it is uncertain that he is an upgrade from Riley (though, I suspect, that Mayberry\'s hearing and timing is better). I\'d like us to still bring in an OT (cough Womack cough or Miller cough). Jacox is solid, and with Holland as a back up, we\'re looking considerably better at OL. When all this started, I would have liked to see Gandy replaced too, but he is servicable, especially if we can solidify the rest of the line (and given how things have been going, I can\'t say I\'m unhappy that we have Gandy to start). I agree that Mayberry will be much better at G than at T.

03-06-2005, 01:38 AM	#7
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Mayberry was a good pick-up. i hope he was cheap enough and can end up being a good pickup whatever spot he ends up at. i have one unsettled thought though... he was the starting guard for the eagles in 12 games last year. the arkansas boy might be ready to supplant him fo sho. but if he is such a leader and so versatile why wouldn\'t the eagles make a stronger attempt to keep him? in the latest cap chart they have the 3rd most available money and do not have glaring holes to spend big on. he was drafted at tackle but was moved to guard. lineman don\'t go from the high paying tackle position to the bottom of the barrel offensive pay at guard cuz they have more talent. that said, it is hard to imagine even him not having a better year than riley last season. if they get him to be a starting tackle it is not without risk though. it reminds me of tebucky. haslett saw something that overshadowed the strong weak tackling rep that he had. at that time i thought, why would defensive minded belicheck let a stud that wasn\'t sky high in pay get away? bubblebutt is another player that they seemed to go after seeing way more than anyone else did. here i ask, why would the also cap saavy eagles let this guy, who was a vital cog the past few years, get away with little, if any, effort to resign him when they have bucks to burn? i am not wanting to grind an axe on the dude, but it also reminds me of gandy. it is just the age when they don\'t get better. smarter? yes. good locker room presence? maybe. veteran from a championship caliber team? yes. ever slowing legs? the report already sez he has probs with quick guys, so definitely not faster. as said, if cheap enough, okay sure, add some depth with a veteran from 4 straight nfc crowns. i just hope they didn\'t overpay for a backup lineman or stretching a guy to starter at not his best position. [Edited on 6/3/2005 by LKelley67]

03-06-2005, 02:00 AM	#8
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Mayberry was a good pick-up. okay, some from the eagles homepage. seems he was a high positive impact guy in the community... After nine seasons, the last two injury riddled, as one of the foundations of the team\'s offensive line, guard Jermane Mayberry agreed to terms Saturday on a four-year contract with the New Orleans Saints. Mayberry was the team\'s first-round draft pick out of Texas A&M-Kingsville in 1996. With his first NFL playcheck, Mayberry teamed up with Eagles Youth Partnership executive director Sarah Martinez-Helfman to start the Eagles Eye Mobile program. The program has grown since its inception and has donated free eye examinations and glasses to over 10,000 children in the Philadelphia area. On the field, Mayberry started a total of 94 regular season games as an Eagles. He played at every position on the offensive line during his career except center. He became most comfortable at the right guard spot where he was named to the 2002 Pro Bowl team. But the 31-year old Mayberry has been worn down by injuries in the last two seasons. He has missed a total of nine games in those two seasons with numerous ailments. The Eagles drafted Shawn Andrews in the first round last year and were going to place Andrews at the right guard position and move Mayberry to left guard. But after Andrews broke his leg in the season opener, Mayberry moved back to the right side. Between Andrews\' recovery, the emergence of former rookie free agent Artis Hicks and a bevy of young offensive linemen waiting in the wings, the Eagles were content to allow Mayberry explore his options in free agency.

03-06-2005, 10:58 AM	#9
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Mayberry was a good pick-up. (Cue weird music and George Orwell voice) That\'s right ... repeat after Has. \"Mayberry was a good pickup. Mayberry was a good pickup. Mayberry (you\'re) was (getting) a (sleepy) good (sleepy) pickup. Mayberry (you\'re getting) was (sleepy) a (sleepy) good ... uuhhhh.\" Now ... remain the docile, thoughtless Saints fan we want you to be. WE will tell you what the team needs, when the team needs it, and how much you will like the pickup. No matter how stupid our picks are in April, you will come here and post how excellent our draft was. WE know what you need, all we need you to do is keep spending your hard-earned money on our inferior product. When you see the dancing monkey, you may return to your pathetic little life. 3... 2... 1... :dancingmonkey:

03-06-2005, 12:10 PM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Mayberry was a good pick-up. MAyberry was a good.....blink blink, hey, I ain\'t falling for that. :P That was funny mutey. Damn them Saints. :casstet: