Training camp preview: Will Saints surprise? - NFL.com

Danno · 07-15-2016, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

A prediction of 11 wins isn't sleeping I don't think.

Sleeping is Darren Woodson who predicted the Saints to finish last in the division yesterday on NFL Live.

Pundits don't seem to understand two critical points:

1. The Saints have finished 7-9 the last two years with historically bad defenses. Not just bad for a season. Bad in NFL history.

2. All signs point to the defense not being historically bad a third year in a row. Improvements are evident in scheme, personnel, discipline, and health.

So if you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then what's the expectation when the Saints have a halfway decent defense? Don't need to look far back: 2013 came in with a 11-5 record.

SFIAH

I'd like this twice if I could.

7-9 for 2 years, with extremely close losses.

Its beyond obvious that we had several young players begin to emerge last year. We had the most rookies of any NFL team.

We the signed some very good players this offseason.

I'm convinced many "experts" just don't have the time to study all 32 teams and simply look at last year results and if no huge names are signed, assume the worst.

In my opinion...

7 wins would be a disaster,
8 wins would be a disappointing,
9 wins would be slightly under-achieving
10 wins is about expected,
11 wins would be slightly over-achieving
12 wins would not be a total shock.

Under 8 or over 12 would very much surprise me.

Rugby Saint II · 07-20-2016, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd like this twice if I could.

In my opinion...

7 wins would be a disaster,
8 wins would be a disappointing,
9 wins would be slightly under-achieving
10 wins is about expected,
11 wins would be slightly over-achieving
12 wins would not be a total shock.

Under 8 or over 12 would very much surprise me.

Once again Danno. You put it in perfect perspective going into training camp!

I'd like it twice if I could.

07-15-2016, 07:10 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Training camp preview: Will Saints surprise? - NFL.com Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL A prediction of 11 wins isn't sleeping I don't think. Sleeping is Darren Woodson who predicted the Saints to finish last in the division yesterday on NFL Live. Pundits don't seem to understand two critical points: 1. The Saints have finished 7-9 the last two years with historically bad defenses. Not just bad for a season. Bad in NFL history. 2. All signs point to the defense not being historically bad a third year in a row. Improvements are evident in scheme, personnel, discipline, and health. So if you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then what's the expectation when the Saints have a halfway decent defense? Don't need to look far back: 2013 came in with a 11-5 record. SFIAH I'd like this twice if I could. 7-9 for 2 years, with extremely close losses. Its beyond obvious that we had several young players begin to emerge last year. We had the most rookies of any NFL team. We the signed some very good players this offseason. I'm convinced many "experts" just don't have the time to study all 32 teams and simply look at last year results and if no huge names are signed, assume the worst. In my opinion... 7 wins would be a disaster, 8 wins would be a disappointing, 9 wins would be slightly under-achieving 10 wins is about expected, 11 wins would be slightly over-achieving 12 wins would not be a total shock. Under 8 or over 12 would very much surprise me. RockyMountainSaint, Rugby Saint II, jlouhill and 1 others like this.

07-20-2016, 02:52 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: Training camp preview: Will Saints surprise? - NFL.com Originally Posted by Danno I'd like this twice if I could. In my opinion... 7 wins would be a disaster, 8 wins would be a disappointing, 9 wins would be slightly under-achieving 10 wins is about expected, 11 wins would be slightly over-achieving 12 wins would not be a total shock. Under 8 or over 12 would very much surprise me. Once again Danno. You put it in perfect perspective going into training camp! I'd like it twice if I could.

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