5-11 to 7-9

Danno · 08-27-2016, 03:01 PM

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

dizzle88 · 08-27-2016, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

halloween 65 · 08-27-2016, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.

AsylumGuido · 08-27-2016, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

Bill Cowher isn't coming back to coaching.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond

lee909 · 08-27-2016, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond

Im fully with this. Not been the same since the suspension. I sadly think its time to move on,but move on everywhere including a owner. Both Benson age and family issues mean he isnt running the team like needed and Loomis is on a very long leash for a man that has drafted so poorly and though a great bean counter has given out terrible contracts.

If the playoffs are not made id want change all round the coaches,front office and even Brees as if the team is blown up you may aswell take that step too. That $25ml a year could pick you up a pair of guards,pay Unger and get pay a good chunk of another top piece.

You give a above average QB a line like(two good guards) Armstead-G-Unger-G-RT and weapons like Cooks,Snead,Thomas and Ingram and they'll do well enough

The Dude · 08-27-2016, 03:58 PM

We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.

spkb25 · 08-27-2016, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.

this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.

saintshrimp · 08-27-2016, 04:28 PM

Well it's finally good to see you guys seeing the light. I've been saying it all along last year and this year. lot of people said I was nuts good to see you guys saw the eye doctor .

08-27-2016, 03:01 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? jnormand likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,560	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore. I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

08-27-2016, 04:01 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore. I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean. If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC. dizzle88 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC. i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by halloween 65 If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC. Bill Cowher isn't coming back to coaching.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by Danno Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire? I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond CharityMike likes this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond Im fully with this. Not been the same since the suspension. I sadly think its time to move on,but move on everywhere including a owner. Both Benson age and family issues mean he isnt running the team like needed and Loomis is on a very long leash for a man that has drafted so poorly and though a great bean counter has given out terrible contracts. If the playoffs are not made id want change all round the coaches,front office and even Brees as if the team is blown up you may aswell take that step too. That $25ml a year could pick you up a pair of guards,pay Unger and get pay a good chunk of another top piece. You give a above average QB a line like(two good guards) Armstead-G-Unger-G-RT and weapons like Cooks,Snead,Thomas and Ingram and they'll do well enough dizzle88 and halloween 65 like this.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Originally Posted by The Dude We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started. this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.

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saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: 5-11 to 7-9 Well it's finally good to see you guys seeing the light. I've been saying it all along last year and this year. lot of people said I was nuts good to see you guys saw the eye doctor .

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