Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?

09-27-2016, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4

I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.

Danno · 09-27-2016, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.

I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead
Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead
Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded

When Payton came back from his suspension and had lost weight, didn't he say he had brought crossfit in with him?

I'm no gym rat, but I've heard crossfit is complete nonsense, if Payton is making our players do that in the weight room then no wonder they are getting injured.

CharityMike · 09-27-2016, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.

San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 03:39 PM

People all the time say that preseason doesn't matter

Two winless preseasons and we are showing no signs of improving in the regular season.

We are not a tough team and we are undisciplined, the cut back lane was wide open last night, Freeman only had to cut back and he had atleast 25 yards if not more.

K Major · 09-27-2016, 04:03 PM

Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.

CharityMike · 09-27-2016, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.

Its definitely part of the problem but we are screwed because we can't overcome 1 mistake in a game.

Danno · 09-27-2016, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.

Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.

CharityMike · 09-27-2016, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.

Never specified what side they play on. You said you doubt any teams have as many significant players hurt as us. Thats false. I didnt even mention Vikings. Imagine if we lost Brees and Ingram for the year.

Saints have 13 on IR. Of that 8 are defensive players. Of that 5 are starters. Breaux, PJ Williams, Swann, Kikaha and Rankins. I am counting Breux as being on IR cause he would be if not for putting Rankins on it and us wanting both of them to be back this year.

09-27-2016, 02:11 PM	#81
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4 I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break. I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have. jnormand likes this.
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09-27-2016, 02:14 PM	#82
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Danno I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break. I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have. Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.

09-27-2016, 02:18 PM	#83
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet. I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year. Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others. Breaux PJWilliams Vaccaro Ellerbe Davison Armstead Snead Hooman Lewis Swann Wilson Kikaha Rankins Sanford Hill Starters bolded Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-27-2016, 02:24 PM	#84
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Danno I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year. Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others. Breaux PJWilliams Vaccaro Ellerbe Davison Armstead Snead Hooman Lewis Swann Wilson Kikaha Rankins Sanford Hill Starters bolded When Payton came back from his suspension and had lost weight, didn't he say he had brought crossfit in with him? I'm no gym rat, but I've heard crossfit is complete nonsense, if Payton is making our players do that in the weight room then no wonder they are getting injured.

09-27-2016, 03:06 PM	#85
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Danno I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break. I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have. San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR. dizzle88 and K Major like this.

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09-27-2016, 03:39 PM	#86
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? People all the time say that preseason doesn't matter Two winless preseasons and we are showing no signs of improving in the regular season. We are not a tough team and we are undisciplined, the cut back lane was wide open last night, Freeman only had to cut back and he had atleast 25 yards if not more.

09-27-2016, 04:03 PM	#87
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks. Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift). Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.

09-27-2016, 04:06 PM	#88
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by K Major Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks. Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift). Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3. Its definitely part of the problem but we are screwed because we can't overcome 1 mistake in a game. dizzle88 likes this.

09-27-2016, 04:08 PM	#89
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by CharityMike San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR. Were they all starters? Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1. saintfan likes this.

09-27-2016, 04:28 PM	#90
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Danno Were they all starters? Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1. Never specified what side they play on. You said you doubt any teams have as many significant players hurt as us. Thats false. I didnt even mention Vikings. Imagine if we lost Brees and Ingram for the year. Saints have 13 on IR. Of that 8 are defensive players. Of that 5 are starters. Breaux, PJ Williams, Swann, Kikaha and Rankins. I am counting Breux as being on IR cause he would be if not for putting Rankins on it and us wanting both of them to be back this year.

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