Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

2017 draft prospects thread

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 I have to go back and look at him some more. I watch a couple of games and did not see what every one was so high on. maybe just not his better games. Tyus Bowser, ...

Like Tree108Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-28-2017, 08:58 PM   #1
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 11,482
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
I have to go back and look at him some more. I watch a couple of games and did not see what every one was so high on. maybe just not his better games.

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr
HGT WGT HAND ARM WING
6024 244 10 1/8 33 78 1/8

I am also looking back at the senior bowl freak

Haason Reddick, ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
HGT WGT HAND ARM WING
6014 237 10 3/8 32 1/8 76 3/4
I really don't know much about Bowser. He's being compared to Eli Harold.
ChrisXVI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 08:43 AM   #2
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 15,870
Blog Entries: 68
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I really don't know much about Bowser. He's being compared to Eli Harold.
ok spent the night chatting and watching this kid and here is what i saw

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr
HGT 6024
WGT 244
HAND 10 1/8
ARM 33
WING 78 1/8


Flashes and a ton of them. No one I talked with could point a complete game he was able to flash together. Some one will over draft him I am sure. as high as round 3? maybe just on athleticism and build. As far as based on his overall play? I see why he faded as the season went on. 6/7 IMO. Question to be answer is how solid is his floor? how high is is ceiling? does he have the football IQ to put it all together? He has a lot of money riding on the rest of the off season beauty pageants. More importantly his interviews will make him or break him. Should be fun to watch

If we are to reach in any round or package up picks and roll the dice on a LB and you are willing to hold your breath

Haason Reddick, DE/OLB Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
HGT 6014
WGT 237
HAND 10 3/8
ARM 32 1/8
WING 76 3/4


The DE/OLB “tweener” label is blown to hell and back. After the senior bowl you are comfortable with him as a 43 WLB and are now toying with the idea he can fill in the slot on a TE and/or a RB. Added depth at safety is not out the question is either. So much for the possible mid round steal label. I have to watch more of him. So far he is a blast to watch. More than a couple of people I talked with had him stashed as the steal later. They were not sharing him for sure till the senior bowl invite. They all wanted to see if he had coverage skills at this level. He played RB and CB in high school. Well secrets out he is a solid gamble with huge upside. I did not know he was a walk on either. The story line with this kid is well worth the read. Rudy goes pro

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

Last edited by hagan714; 01-29-2017 at 09:03 AM..
hagan714 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 12:07 PM   #3
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
ok spent the night chatting and watching this kid and here is what i saw

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr
HGT 6024
WGT 244
HAND 10 1/8
ARM 33
WING 78 1/8


Flashes and a ton of them. No one I talked with could point a complete game he was able to flash together. Some one will over draft him I am sure. as high as round 3? maybe just on athleticism and build. As far as based on his overall play? I see why he faded as the season went on. 6/7 IMO. Question to be answer is how solid is his floor? how high is is ceiling? does he have the football IQ to put it all together? He has a lot of money riding on the rest of the off season beauty pageants. More importantly his interviews will make him or break him. Should be fun to watch

If we are to reach in any round or package up picks and roll the dice on a LB and you are willing to hold your breath

Haason Reddick, DE/OLB Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
HGT 6014
WGT 237
HAND 10 3/8
ARM 32 1/8
WING 76 3/4


The DE/OLB “tweener” label is blown to hell and back. After the senior bowl you are comfortable with him as a 43 WLB and are now toying with the idea he can fill in the slot on a TE and/or a RB. Added depth at safety is not out the question is either. So much for the possible mid round steal label. I have to watch more of him. So far he is a blast to watch. More than a couple of people I talked with had him stashed as the steal later. They were not sharing him for sure till the senior bowl invite. They all wanted to see if he had coverage skills at this level. He played RB and CB in high school. Well secrets out he is a solid gamble with huge upside. I did not know he was a walk on either. The story line with this kid is well worth the read. Rudy goes pro
What is Reddicks projected round.
halloween 65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 04:21 AM   #4
100th Post
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 292
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

I may be in the minority here, but i would not mind at all if we went back to back LB in rounds 1&2, more specifically...

1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Hasson Reddick, Temple

our speed/talent would upgrade tremendously at LB. Talk about having two impact playmakers with the ability to quickly diagnose, drop in coverage & effectively pressure the QB.
hagan714 and Beastmode like this.
Sarik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2017, 10:33 AM   #5
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Originally Posted by Sarik View Post
I may be in the minority here, but i would not mind at all if we went back to back LB in rounds 1&2, more specifically...

1. Reuben Foster, Alabama
2. Hasson Reddick, Temple

our speed/talent would upgrade tremendously at LB. Talk about having two impact playmakers with the ability to quickly diagnose, drop in coverage & effectively pressure the QB.
For the first time since we had Fujita-Vilma-Shanle do we have some real talent accumulated at linebacker (Ellerbe-Robertson-Stupar-Anthony-Kikaha)...

It'll be a dynamic, versatile group that will allow us to put multiple fronts us and Foster would definitely be an upgrade to this group, as well as depth...

But I don't think we add another LB unless we move Kikaha or maybe Anthony to a team with a 3-4 front to find a better match for D.A.'s scheme...

The two linebackers in the draft I think could have an impact on this defense are ILB Reuben Foster and/or OLB T.J. Watt...

By adding Foster, we could have him at the MIKE, shifting Anthony to the outside and bringing Kikaha in situational pass rushes...

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 51 - Reuben Foster, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

By adding Watt, Anthony would compete with Robertson for the MIKE and you could still have Kikaha on situational pass rushes...

SLB (2) 57 - T.J. Watt, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

Two other points I'd like to make - first, despite the effort to play Kikaha at WDE, he doesn't have the physical size to set the edge as a DE and will continue to be on IR if that happens; second, we just added a terrific LBers Coack in Mike Nolan who's coached some of the greatest LBers in the history of the game and I believe will get Anthony turned around as a MIKE LBer, if the team chooses to go in that direction after having invested a first round pick to do just that...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

Last edited by jeanpierre; 01-31-2017 at 10:48 AM..
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 07:59 AM   #6
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

There was a running back that looked good also.
halloween 65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 11:28 AM   #7
Fan Since 1967
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Nomad
Posts: 7,490
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

I still like Rueben. Houston had a tough time beating a few teams because they allowed too many points. Would really love to have Quincy from Florida or Marshon from Ohio State both CB's
hagan714 likes this.
CheramieIII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2017, 04:35 PM   #8
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2017, 09:53 PM   #9
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,267
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Keeps tabs on who the saints like and then put them in order because the highest one is who they will pick. It's BPA after all. Look at those teams and see if you can see if they "fit the saints."

Kind of why I don't know if I will do scouting this year because the FO picks based on BPA more than need. Say for instance Peppers is who we need and the BPA is McCaffery.
WillSaints81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2017, 10:27 PM   #10
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Bayou Bayfield CO
Posts: 4,722
Re: 2017 draft prospects thread

Peppers is not who we need!
K Major likes this.
Seer1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/79462-2017-draft-prospects-thread.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News | SportSpyder This thread Refback 09-04-2016 12:10 PM 13


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts