Saints Cut C.J. Spiller

09-13-2016, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I am a jerk. Who the hell cares. But I am a jerk that gets sick of the same old **** from the same five or six posters here on the board that can't do anything but *****.

Wow dude you need to go talk to someone. You have some issues.we all have opinions on the team that what makes us fans we are allowed to question things and disagree with things it don't make us not fans of the team

The Dude · 09-13-2016, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nothing I have seen has this defense at the bottom of the NFL as you claim. I see a defense through one game that lost their best CB to a broken leg. A team that lost their last two top defensive draft choices to injury before the first game. And you put that on the leadership?

A defense success should not hinge on just one player getting hurt. We all should have seen it coming since none of the other CBs have ever played in a regular season game. To the teams credit, or not, they did lose several other starters they were counting on and the loss of Greer was the biggest. It seems like they are making these decisions to let players go way to late in the game.
I dont know how much our defense will improve because I have seen no turnovers, (problem 1 last year), no pressure (problem 2 last year), and questions marks among the DBs (problem 3 last year).
Wouldnt surprise me if we only moved up a spot or two from last year.

AS for the drunk comments if you guys dont know its been a problem then you are blind or dilusional. Vicodin scandal, slurring at press confrences, and basically being seen around town trashed on multiple occasions. Too much smoke.

neugey · 09-13-2016, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I just get sick and tired of this nonstop *****ing and moaning. All this bashing of everything that has to do with the team that is a major part of my life. Give it a rest, damnit. Just give it a damned rest.

Myself I am trying to be as objective as possible and try to see Sean's side of it. You are right in that we can't even begin to know all the info that goes into the decisions being made.

But to me it's more than just the questionable decisions, it's the timing of how things are done.

Even before the Breaux injury, we should have had a contingency plan for Keenan Lewis not being healthy enough. From what I know, Finnegan was available all of free agency. Probably several other serviceable corners were available to bring in too, like Sterling Moore. Yet we refused to make a move for a low-cost veteran corner until well into August, which is self-defeating because it's awful late to bringing them into our defensive system. Why didn't we add someone like Finnegan around the time we added Laurinitis? Depth at cornerback was desired, even if it looked like Keenan and Breaux would be healthy, because we are so inexperienced and young at the position.

We basically gave Spiller a roster bonus just to turn around and cut him. What is worse is that we used up a roster spot that could have been used on someone that could contribute - Finnegan or otherwise.

It just doesn't seem that we have a concrete plan of action with some of our personnel. It seems we lack in contingency plans and just put out fires when they come about. I'm not saying every other organization in the NFL is on top of things, but many seem to be compared to us.

lee909 · 09-13-2016, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The front office is doing the best they can with the ****ty hands we keep getting dealt.

Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed.

halloween 65 · 09-13-2016, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There are no players that can help. We have what we have. The front office is doing the best they can with the ****ty hands we keep getting dealt.

I don't get the comment about the front office? They are picking the players.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2016, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Myself I am trying to be as objective as possible and try to Sean's side of it. You are right in that we can't even begin to know all the info that goes into the decisions being made.

But to me it's more than just the questionable decisions, it's the timing of how things are done.

Even before the Breaux injury, we should have had a contingency plan for Keenan Lewis not being healthy enough. From what I know, Finnegan was available all of free agency. Probably several other serviceable corners were available to bring in too, like Sterling Moore. Yet we refused to make a move for a low-cost veteran corner until well into August, which is self-defeating because it's awful late to bringing them into our defensive system. Why didn't we add someone like Finnegan around the time we added Laurinitis? Depth at cornerback was desired, even if it looked like Keenan and Breaux would be healthy, because we are so inexperienced and young at the position.

We basically gave Spiller a roster bonus just to turn around and cut him. What is worse is that we used up a roster spot that could have been used on someone that could contribute - Finnegan or otherwise.

It just doesn't seem that we have a concrete plan of action with some of our personnel. It seems we lack in contingency plans and just put out fires when they come about. I'm not saying every other organization in the NFL is on top of things, but many seem to be compared to us.

We had to sign a CB. We couldn't place Breaux on IR. A player HAD to be cut. Spiller for one reason or another was the best option. That's it. And, yes. The NFL is a series of fires. You think we are the only team that goes through this. I read this same crap on every board in the league to a degree, but I am hearing more *****ing here that most others recently from a handful of nonstop *****ers.

halloween 65 · 09-13-2016, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed.

I was basically typing the same thing and didn't see you post til after I clicked. Sorry.

voodooido · 09-13-2016, 10:42 PM

Already making room for fournette! Bold move, I love it!

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2016, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't get the comment about the front office? They are picking the players.

The injuries! You can't do crap about that except for rolling with the punches. Our so called defense would be much better with every player we lost so far this year. Blame that on drunken assed Payton and that dumbass Loomis.

AsylumGuido · 09-13-2016, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed.

Same answer for you.

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09-13-2016, 10:36 PM	#122
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nothing I have seen has this defense at the bottom of the NFL as you claim. I see a defense through one game that lost their best CB to a broken leg. A team that lost their last two top defensive draft choices to injury before the first game. And you put that on the leadership? A defense success should not hinge on just one player getting hurt. We all should have seen it coming since none of the other CBs have ever played in a regular season game. To the teams credit, or not, they did lose several other starters they were counting on and the loss of Greer was the biggest. It seems like they are making these decisions to let players go way to late in the game. I dont know how much our defense will improve because I have seen no turnovers, (problem 1 last year), no pressure (problem 2 last year), and questions marks among the DBs (problem 3 last year). Wouldnt surprise me if we only moved up a spot or two from last year. AS for the drunk comments if you guys dont know its been a problem then you are blind or dilusional. Vicodin scandal, slurring at press confrences, and basically being seen around town trashed on multiple occasions. Too much smoke. neugey likes this.
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09-13-2016, 10:36 PM	#123
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,725 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I just get sick and tired of this nonstop *****ing and moaning. All this bashing of everything that has to do with the team that is a major part of my life. Give it a rest, damnit. Just give it a damned rest. Myself I am trying to be as objective as possible and try to see Sean's side of it. You are right in that we can't even begin to know all the info that goes into the decisions being made. But to me it's more than just the questionable decisions, it's the timing of how things are done. Even before the Breaux injury, we should have had a contingency plan for Keenan Lewis not being healthy enough. From what I know, Finnegan was available all of free agency. Probably several other serviceable corners were available to bring in too, like Sterling Moore. Yet we refused to make a move for a low-cost veteran corner until well into August, which is self-defeating because it's awful late to bringing them into our defensive system. Why didn't we add someone like Finnegan around the time we added Laurinitis? Depth at cornerback was desired, even if it looked like Keenan and Breaux would be healthy, because we are so inexperienced and young at the position. We basically gave Spiller a roster bonus just to turn around and cut him. What is worse is that we used up a roster spot that could have been used on someone that could contribute - Finnegan or otherwise. It just doesn't seem that we have a concrete plan of action with some of our personnel. It seems we lack in contingency plans and just put out fires when they come about. I'm not saying every other organization in the NFL is on top of things, but many seem to be compared to us. Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

09-13-2016, 10:39 PM	#124
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,829 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The front office is doing the best they can with the ****ty hands we keep getting dealt. Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed.

09-13-2016, 10:40 PM	#125
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There are no players that can help. We have what we have. The front office is doing the best they can with the ****ty hands we keep getting dealt. I don't get the comment about the front office? They are picking the players.

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09-13-2016, 10:41 PM	#126
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by neugey Myself I am trying to be as objective as possible and try to Sean's side of it. You are right in that we can't even begin to know all the info that goes into the decisions being made. But to me it's more than just the questionable decisions, it's the timing of how things are done. Even before the Breaux injury, we should have had a contingency plan for Keenan Lewis not being healthy enough. From what I know, Finnegan was available all of free agency. Probably several other serviceable corners were available to bring in too, like Sterling Moore. Yet we refused to make a move for a low-cost veteran corner until well into August, which is self-defeating because it's awful late to bringing them into our defensive system. Why didn't we add someone like Finnegan around the time we added Laurinitis? Depth at cornerback was desired, even if it looked like Keenan and Breaux would be healthy, because we are so inexperienced and young at the position. We basically gave Spiller a roster bonus just to turn around and cut him. What is worse is that we used up a roster spot that could have been used on someone that could contribute - Finnegan or otherwise. It just doesn't seem that we have a concrete plan of action with some of our personnel. It seems we lack in contingency plans and just put out fires when they come about. I'm not saying every other organization in the NFL is on top of things, but many seem to be compared to us. We had to sign a CB. We couldn't place Breaux on IR. A player HAD to be cut. Spiller for one reason or another was the best option. That's it. And, yes. The NFL is a series of fires. You think we are the only team that goes through this. I read this same crap on every board in the league to a degree, but I am hearing more ***ing here that most others recently from a handful of nonstop ***ers.

09-13-2016, 10:42 PM	#127
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by lee909 Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed. I was basically typing the same thing and didn't see you post til after I clicked. Sorry.

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09-13-2016, 10:43 PM	#129
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't get the comment about the front office? They are picking the players. The injuries! You can't do crap about that except for rolling with the punches. Our so called defense would be much better with every player we lost so far this year. Blame that on drunken assed Payton and that dumbass Loomis.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by lee909 Well they have dealt themselves most of that hand with the roster they constructed. Same answer for you.

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