Saints Cut C.J. Spiller

09-13-2016, 08:15 PM

I'm not upset about the dead money. I'm just surprised by the move. Payton was singing his praises earlier this year. Idk, maybe he wasn't good for the locker room like Galette.

I'm not concerned about our situation at RB either. Just a weird move. Maybe he was fighting an injury like Lewis. If that's the case and we're getting rid of players who aren't getting on the field, then that's a good thing IMO.

If they're getting rid of oft injured players....a certain LB might be next on the chopping block. His name rhymes with Smellerbee.....

Danno · 09-13-2016, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

okay well I was just saying what you said on here:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/79507...-murphy-3.html

I do realize those 5 days must have changed everything about how you felt.

Oops, thats gonna leave a mark!!!

But, his past says he's better than both, but that was based on what we saw when he was with Buffalo. Its obvious since he was a scratch for week one that something was wrong that we didn't know about.

The Buffalo Spiller is better than Murphy or Lasco as a 3rd down back, no question. And I think thats what we all thought we were finally getting. But something was obviously wrong. Was it attitude, health? My guess is a combination of several things and since Murphy and Lasco excel at special teams, he was the most expendable.

It might still be true that Spiller >>> Murphy and Lasco as a starting RB in 2016, but not so much in overall team value when you throw in future potential and special teams.

So, did I successfully crawfish outta that one???

saintshrimp · 09-13-2016, 08:24 PM

Swann should be very nervous too

neugey · 09-13-2016, 08:24 PM

I am calling into question if Payton and Loomis even know what they are doing anymore.

We are only through week 1, and Spiller already caps a series of mind-boggling decisions. The big decisions they seem okay at - like getting Brees resigned and bringing in Kruger. It's all these small decisions that, honestly, the team seems clueless about.

I'm trying to be subjective and not fall into the hindsight-is-20-20 stuff, but there is too much that already leaves me scratching my head:

Why did we workout Lutz right before the start of regular season rather than bringing in him and/or other young kickers at beginning of camp?

What was the purpose of hanging onto Spiller for one week, rather than cutting him toward end of preseason with our other cuts? We could have kept Finnegan or at least some other cornerback.

I don't even want to get into last season, with the constant refusal to bench/cut Browner despite the fact that he single-handedly cost us at least two games last season. The whole 3-4/4-3/Rob Ryan fiasco last year and Payton's peculiar decisions about himself/Carmichael calling the plays. We just seem to have a lot of chronic unsettlement, if not dysfunction.

I was trying to put these things behind me, but Payton/Loomis keep doing things that make me think I shouldn't being doing that.

Always will be a fan, and I have confidence in Brees and many of the players on this team. I just don't have much confidence in Payton/Loomis because so little seems to make sense sometimes.

Danno · 09-13-2016, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Swann should be very nervous too

Swann was released wasn't he?

saintshrimp · 09-13-2016, 08:28 PM

nope on IR

|Mitch| · 09-13-2016, 08:29 PM

Swann is on IR again; a torn muscle and not concussion

Danno · 09-13-2016, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I am calling into question if Payton and Loomis even know what they are doing anymore.

We are only through week 1, and Spiller already caps a series of mind-boggling decisions. The big decisions they seem okay at - like getting Brees resigned and bringing in Kruger. It's all these small decisions that, honestly, the team seems clueless about.

I'm trying to be subjective and not fall into the hindsight-is-20-20 stuff, but there is too much that already leaves me scratching my head:

Why did we workout Lutz right before the start of regular season rather than bringing in him and/or other young kickers at beginning of camp?

What was the purpose of hanging onto Spiller for one week, rather than cutting him toward end of preseason with our other cuts? We could have kept Finnegan or at least some other cornerback.

I don't even want to get into last season, with the constant refusal to bench/cut Browner despite the fact that he single-handedly cost us at least two games last season. The whole 3-4/4-3/Rob Ryan fiasco last year and Payton's peculiar decisions about himself/Carmichael calling the plays. We just seem to have a lot of chronic unsettlement, if not dysfunction.

I was trying to put these things behind me, but Payton/Loomis keep doing things that make me think I shouldn't being doing that.

Always will be fan, and I have confidence in Brees and many of the players on this team. I just don't have much confidence in Payton/Loomis because so little seems to make sense sometimes.

I still have confidence in Payton and Loomis, although Loomis is likely just doing what Payton requests. But I'll admit I'm becoming less and less enamored with both of them.

I thought their upside was the Patriots organization, but I'm not ready to say their downside is the Browns organization yet.

lee909 · 09-13-2016, 08:31 PM

Shame,could have done with him. I really dont get why you are limited to one player o IR to return. I understand that teams could stash players but just make it that the NFL has to check out the players medical and so long as they are injured(say 4-5 weeks minimum they can go on IR)

WhoDat!656 · 09-13-2016, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Clearly he was the reason the Saints lost Sunday.

That honor belongs to Brees.

09-13-2016, 08:15 PM	#71
Threaded by jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662 Rating: (0 votes - average) I'm not upset about the dead money. I'm just surprised by the move. Payton was singing his praises earlier this year. Idk, maybe he wasn't good for the locker room like Galette. I'm not concerned about our situation at RB either. Just a weird move. Maybe he was fighting an injury like Lewis. If that's the case and we're getting rid of players who aren't getting on the field, then that's a good thing IMO. If they're getting rid of oft injured players....a certain LB might be next on the chopping block. His name rhymes with Smellerbee..... CharityMike likes this.
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09-13-2016, 08:22 PM	#72
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by spkb25 okay well I was just saying what you said on here: http://blackandgold.com/saints/79507...-murphy-3.html I do realize those 5 days must have changed everything about how you felt. Oops, thats gonna leave a mark!!! But, his past says he's better than both, but that was based on what we saw when he was with Buffalo. Its obvious since he was a scratch for week one that something was wrong that we didn't know about. The Buffalo Spiller is better than Murphy or Lasco as a 3rd down back, no question. And I think thats what we all thought we were finally getting. But something was obviously wrong. Was it attitude, health? My guess is a combination of several things and since Murphy and Lasco excel at special teams, he was the most expendable. It might still be true that Spiller >>> Murphy and Lasco as a starting RB in 2016, but not so much in overall team value when you throw in future potential and special teams. So, did I successfully crawfish outta that one??? ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

09-13-2016, 08:24 PM	#73
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Swann should be very nervous too

09-13-2016, 08:24 PM	#74
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller I am calling into question if Payton and Loomis even know what they are doing anymore. We are only through week 1, and Spiller already caps a series of mind-boggling decisions. The big decisions they seem okay at - like getting Brees resigned and bringing in Kruger. It's all these small decisions that, honestly, the team seems clueless about. I'm trying to be subjective and not fall into the hindsight-is-20-20 stuff, but there is too much that already leaves me scratching my head: Why did we workout Lutz right before the start of regular season rather than bringing in him and/or other young kickers at beginning of camp? What was the purpose of hanging onto Spiller for one week, rather than cutting him toward end of preseason with our other cuts? We could have kept Finnegan or at least some other cornerback. I don't even want to get into last season, with the constant refusal to bench/cut Browner despite the fact that he single-handedly cost us at least two games last season. The whole 3-4/4-3/Rob Ryan fiasco last year and Payton's peculiar decisions about himself/Carmichael calling the plays. We just seem to have a lot of chronic unsettlement, if not dysfunction. I was trying to put these things behind me, but Payton/Loomis keep doing things that make me think I shouldn't being doing that. Always will be a fan, and I have confidence in Brees and many of the players on this team. I just don't have much confidence in Payton/Loomis because so little seems to make sense sometimes. Danno, CharityMike and K Major like this.

09-13-2016, 08:27 PM	#75
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by saintshrimp Swann should be very nervous too Swann was released wasn't he?

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09-13-2016, 08:28 PM	#76
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller nope on IR

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Swann is on IR again; a torn muscle and not concussion

09-13-2016, 08:30 PM	#78
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by neugey I am calling into question if Payton and Loomis even know what they are doing anymore. We are only through week 1, and Spiller already caps a series of mind-boggling decisions. The big decisions they seem okay at - like getting Brees resigned and bringing in Kruger. It's all these small decisions that, honestly, the team seems clueless about. I'm trying to be subjective and not fall into the hindsight-is-20-20 stuff, but there is too much that already leaves me scratching my head: Why did we workout Lutz right before the start of regular season rather than bringing in him and/or other young kickers at beginning of camp? What was the purpose of hanging onto Spiller for one week, rather than cutting him toward end of preseason with our other cuts? We could have kept Finnegan or at least some other cornerback. I don't even want to get into last season, with the constant refusal to bench/cut Browner despite the fact that he single-handedly cost us at least two games last season. The whole 3-4/4-3/Rob Ryan fiasco last year and Payton's peculiar decisions about himself/Carmichael calling the plays. We just seem to have a lot of chronic unsettlement, if not dysfunction. I was trying to put these things behind me, but Payton/Loomis keep doing things that make me think I shouldn't being doing that. Always will be fan, and I have confidence in Brees and many of the players on this team. I just don't have much confidence in Payton/Loomis because so little seems to make sense sometimes. I still have confidence in Payton and Loomis, although Loomis is likely just doing what Payton requests. But I'll admit I'm becoming less and less enamored with both of them. I thought their upside was the Patriots organization, but I'm not ready to say their downside is the Browns organization yet. neugey, ChrisXVI and Lord_Saint83 like this.

09-13-2016, 08:31 PM	#79
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Shame,could have done with him. I really dont get why you are limited to one player o IR to return. I understand that teams could stash players but just make it that the NFL has to check out the players medical and so long as they are injured(say 4-5 weeks minimum they can go on IR)

09-13-2016, 08:52 PM	#80
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: Saints Cut C.J. Spiller Originally Posted by Cruize Clearly he was the reason the Saints lost Sunday. That honor belongs to Brees.

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