Well I've gone and done it!

WillSaints81 · 10-06-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

To address the dumb, uninformed portion of your post.
Many people who follow LA Prep football saw that Beckham was a diva at Newman.
He was the same at LSU, but much was covered up by fawning local media types.

To address the REALLY DUMB portion of your post.
How in the hell do you arrive at your position on Fournette?
That is purely a baseless and frankly stupid accusation to make.
You obviously pulled your entire post out of your ass and placed it here.

You wanna start ****?

WillSaints81 · 10-06-2016, 11:36 AM

I was high on ODB before the draft, ranking him ahead of the likes of Evans and Cooks before anyone else did. I don't live in Louisiana to know about any of his highschool history or whatever.

If you ****ing think Fournette is gonna be happy with 10 carries a game on this team then you are the one who is stupid. Payton hurts players' potential unless they are receivers and even those who aren't number ones but were in college get affected.

Number one players expect number one production.

jeanpierre · 10-06-2016, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We didn't know ODB was a diva either until he came to the NFL. LSU's stud players are different than Bamas. RBs have a history of success from LSU compared to Bama. A stud player like Fournette is not going to accept what the saints give him. He is likely going to be someone who wants his stats padded.

Originally Posted by The Dude

And yet people piss and moan about Payton hating LSU players. A me first player is exactly what this team needs right now.
Fournettes backup had over 160 yards. LSU is a run first team and Fournette benefits from that. He won't be a very good NFL player you watch.

I remember a few years back I said Manziel wouldn't make it in the NFL and got blasted by Mitch and Danno

Might not have been them but I can't miss an opportunity to say told u so

Originally Posted by Danno

By me? I was never a Manzeil fan. Are you thinking of someone else?

I thought he was gonna be a bust from day 1.

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

To address the dumb, uninformed portion of your post.
Many people who follow LA Prep football saw that Beckham was a diva at Newman.
He was the same at LSU, but much was covered up by fawning local media types.

To address the REALLY DUMB portion of your post.
How in the hell do you arrive at your position on Fournette?
That is purely a baseless and frankly stupid accusation to make.
You obviously pulled your entire post out of your ass and placed it here.

After reading all this I have two questions:

First, Rocky, who p*ssed in your cheerios, Bro? Did that chick take the fifty dollars and run out the side door at Cruisin' Da Coast? Those crazy @ss Mississippi girls...

Second, Does Danno not want his Johnny Manziel No. 2 Saints Jersey he's had on backorder now?

jeanpierre · 10-06-2016, 12:54 PM

And for the record, the downward trend and spiraling started for ODB when that **** Lena Durham, dressed in a tuxedon and tried to pick him up at a New York Benefit...ODB has been unraveled ever since...

WillSaints81 · 10-06-2016, 06:39 PM

From Girls? She's into that?

burningmetal · 10-07-2016, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And yet people piss and moan about Payton hating LSU players. A me first player is exactly what this team needs right now.
Fournettes backup had over 160 yards. LSU is a run first team and Fournette benefits from that. He won't be a very good NFL player you watch.

I remember a few years back I said Manziel wouldn't make it in the NFL and got blasted by Mitch and Danno

Might not have been them but I can't miss an opportunity to say told u so

Maybe you should educate yourself about a topic before posting about it. Fournette's backup (Derrius Guice) has been considered by many to be the second best back in the SEC behind his teammate. LSU has ridiculous talent at RB right now.

So how does that make Fournette somehow overrated? What makes you think being in a run first offense benefits him? People don't compare you to some of the greatest running backs in the history of college football because of stats. Melvin Gordon put up video game numbers a couple of years back at Wisconsin, and while people took notice, nobody was talking about him like they do with Fournette.

And by the way, there were tons of people, myself included, who thought Manziel would be a bust. That wasn't a hard one to call.

Oh, and one more thing... Fournette is not a "me first player". You took what one person said on here and made it out to be the gospel truth. OBJ appears to be a very self centered player. Ok..... Name ONE other player from LSU with that reputation. To take one player and declare that he represents the behavior of an ENTIRE university is completely ridiculous.

You have been clamoring for Chad Kelly in draft threads since last year. What a stand up guy he has been.

I could go on and on, but I'm going to end my rant here.

WillSaints81 · 10-07-2016, 03:24 PM

No RB with exceptional talent is going to find that big hole for a big 20-30 yard running play with 10 carries a game. A big run comes one or two times in a game out of 15 carries at least.

skymike · 10-10-2016, 07:45 PM

ok, this is funny.
OP comes out and says he left the other site because of the hostility.
A couple of us say, well its calmer here.
Now I got 4 or 5 pages of people insulting and flaming each other.
LOL.
people, calm the f*** down, and just have some fun.

burningmetal · 10-10-2016, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

No RB with exceptional talent is going to find that big hole for a big 20-30 yard running play with 10 carries a game. A big run comes one or two times in a game out of 15 carries at least.

It's highly unlikely the Saints end up with Fournette. But regardless of who he ends up with, he won't need X amount of carries to warm up, which is the excuse people have used for years about Ingram.

Great running backs find daylight and run to it, through it, and they don't run into the back of a lineman, from the first play to the last play. It's one thing to wear down the other team over the course of the game, but this idea of the running back needing to get into a rhythm is something I don't believe in. It's not a position of rhythm.

I can guarantee you that if the Saints had a great running back, we'd see more running plays. We have an okay RB. And yes, Payton lacks balance in his play-calling. We ran the ball a lot with Deuce, when Payton first got here, and in later years used a mix of running backs and made it work. But they let the offensive line go to crap, and the play calling went with it. Even when it's working now, he seems to abandon it.

But none of this has anything to do with what type of talent Fournette is. He'll get his carries, no matter where he goes.

WHODATINCA · 10-11-2016, 05:04 AM

Jesus ..... this place just makes me wanna cry right now. You're kidding about Mark Ingram, right?

10-06-2016, 11:33 AM	#61
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Well I've gone and done it! Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint To address the dumb, uninformed portion of your post. Many people who follow LA Prep football saw that Beckham was a diva at Newman. He was the same at LSU, but much was covered up by fawning local media types. To address the REALLY DUMB portion of your post. How in the hell do you arrive at your position on Fournette? That is purely a baseless and frankly stupid accusation to make. You obviously pulled your entire post out of your ass and placed it here. You wanna start ****?

10-06-2016, 11:36 AM	#62
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Well I've gone and done it! I was high on ODB before the draft, ranking him ahead of the likes of Evans and Cooks before anyone else did. I don't live in Louisiana to know about any of his highschool history or whatever. If you ****ing think Fournette is gonna be happy with 10 carries a game on this team then you are the one who is stupid. Payton hurts players' potential unless they are receivers and even those who aren't number ones but were in college get affected. Number one players expect number one production.

10-06-2016, 12:45 PM	#63
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Well I've gone and done it! Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We didn't know ODB was a diva either until he came to the NFL. LSU's stud players are different than Bamas. RBs have a history of success from LSU compared to Bama. A stud player like Fournette is not going to accept what the saints give him. He is likely going to be someone who wants his stats padded. Originally Posted by The Dude And yet people piss and moan about Payton hating LSU players. A me first player is exactly what this team needs right now. Fournettes backup had over 160 yards. LSU is a run first team and Fournette benefits from that. He won't be a very good NFL player you watch. I remember a few years back I said Manziel wouldn't make it in the NFL and got blasted by Mitch and Danno Might not have been them but I can't miss an opportunity to say told u so Originally Posted by Danno By me? I was never a Manzeil fan. Are you thinking of someone else? I thought he was gonna be a bust from day 1. Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint To address the dumb, uninformed portion of your post. Many people who follow LA Prep football saw that Beckham was a diva at Newman. He was the same at LSU, but much was covered up by fawning local media types. To address the REALLY DUMB portion of your post. How in the hell do you arrive at your position on Fournette? That is purely a baseless and frankly stupid accusation to make. You obviously pulled your entire post out of your ass and placed it here. After reading all this I have two questions: First, Rocky, who p*ssed in your cheerios, Bro? Did that chick take the fifty dollars and run out the side door at Cruisin' Da Coast? Those crazy @ss Mississippi girls... Second, Does Danno not want his Johnny Manziel No. 2 Saints Jersey he's had on backorder now?

10-06-2016, 12:54 PM	#64
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Well I've gone and done it! And for the record, the downward trend and spiraling started for ODB when that **** Lena Durham, dressed in a tuxedon and tried to pick him up at a New York Benefit...ODB has been unraveled ever since...

10-06-2016, 06:39 PM	#65
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10-07-2016, 02:05 AM	#66
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Well I've gone and done it! Originally Posted by The Dude And yet people piss and moan about Payton hating LSU players. A me first player is exactly what this team needs right now. Fournettes backup had over 160 yards. LSU is a run first team and Fournette benefits from that. He won't be a very good NFL player you watch. I remember a few years back I said Manziel wouldn't make it in the NFL and got blasted by Mitch and Danno Might not have been them but I can't miss an opportunity to say told u so Maybe you should educate yourself about a topic before posting about it. Fournette's backup (Derrius Guice) has been considered by many to be the second best back in the SEC behind his teammate. LSU has ridiculous talent at RB right now. So how does that make Fournette somehow overrated? What makes you think being in a run first offense benefits him? People don't compare you to some of the greatest running backs in the history of college football because of stats. Melvin Gordon put up video game numbers a couple of years back at Wisconsin, and while people took notice, nobody was talking about him like they do with Fournette. And by the way, there were tons of people, myself included, who thought Manziel would be a bust. That wasn't a hard one to call. Oh, and one more thing... Fournette is not a "me first player". You took what one person said on here and made it out to be the gospel truth. OBJ appears to be a very self centered player. Ok..... Name ONE other player from LSU with that reputation. To take one player and declare that he represents the behavior of an ENTIRE university is completely ridiculous. You have been clamoring for Chad Kelly in draft threads since last year. What a stand up guy he has been. I could go on and on, but I'm going to end my rant here. K Major likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-07-2016, 03:24 PM	#67
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Well I've gone and done it! No RB with exceptional talent is going to find that big hole for a big 20-30 yard running play with 10 carries a game. A big run comes one or two times in a game out of 15 carries at least.

10-10-2016, 07:45 PM	#68
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Well I've gone and done it! ok, this is funny. OP comes out and says he left the other site because of the hostility. A couple of us say, well its calmer here. Now I got 4 or 5 pages of people insulting and flaming each other. LOL. people, calm the f*** down, and just have some fun. Danno, Crusader and jeanpierre like this.

10-10-2016, 08:05 PM	#69
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Well I've gone and done it! Originally Posted by WillSaints81 No RB with exceptional talent is going to find that big hole for a big 20-30 yard running play with 10 carries a game. A big run comes one or two times in a game out of 15 carries at least. It's highly unlikely the Saints end up with Fournette. But regardless of who he ends up with, he won't need X amount of carries to warm up, which is the excuse people have used for years about Ingram. Great running backs find daylight and run to it, through it, and they don't run into the back of a lineman, from the first play to the last play. It's one thing to wear down the other team over the course of the game, but this idea of the running back needing to get into a rhythm is something I don't believe in. It's not a position of rhythm. I can guarantee you that if the Saints had a great running back, we'd see more running plays. We have an okay RB. And yes, Payton lacks balance in his play-calling. We ran the ball a lot with Deuce, when Payton first got here, and in later years used a mix of running backs and made it work. But they let the offensive line go to crap, and the play calling went with it. Even when it's working now, he seems to abandon it. But none of this has anything to do with what type of talent Fournette is. He'll get his carries, no matter where he goes.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-11-2016, 05:04 AM	#70
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Well I've gone and done it! Jesus ..... this place just makes me wanna cry right now. You're kidding about Mark Ingram, right?

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