Bree's lost a step?

NOLA54 · 10-25-2016, 04:42 PM

Maybe if our run game was better he wouldn't have to throw so much.

Danno · 10-25-2016, 05:09 PM

He hasn't lost squat

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I didn't see where you said any of that, but you weren't wrong. I believe he has the most pick sixes in the NFL over the course of his career. There IS a downside to all the passes he throws, despite what his completion percentage would indicate. My only clue of a decline from Brees has been the excessive amount of dump off throws. Part of it has been bad O-line play, but he also seems like he gives up too quick. His decision making just hasn't been as sharp.

But by no means has anything gone "kaput" with him. If this offensive line were better, not just against the pass rush, but if they could provide a running game, our offense could be 2011 good again. To me it's as simple as that.

Been trying to verify or disprove that statement, but I did find that as of October 15, 2013 Brees was tied for 10th with the most career pick sixes at 19. Manning had 25 at the time and Favre had 35. Although, among all QB's that had thrown at least five pick sixes he is only ranked 111th in pick sixes per pass attempt.

Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History

Utah_Saint · 10-25-2016, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Been trying to verify or disprove that statement, but I did find that as of October 15, 2013 Brees was tied for 10th with the most career pick sixes at 19. Manning had 25 at the time and Favre had 35. Although, among all QB's that had thrown at least five pick sixes he is only ranked 111th in pick sixes per pass attempt.

Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History

Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown

Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts
Dan Marino - 30 - .33%
Payton Manning - 29 - .31%
Drew Brees - 26 - .31%

He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt.

Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown

Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts
Dan Marino - 30 - .33%
Payton Manning - 29 - .31%
Drew Brees - 26 - .31%

He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt.

Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers.

So he doesn't suck? Wow!

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown

Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts
Dan Marino - 30 - .33%
Payton Manning - 29 - .31%
Drew Brees - 26 - .31%

He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt.

Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers.

Oh, and thanks for finishing the research. Busy trying to get dinner ready. Not easy these days with a bum spine.

exiled · 10-25-2016, 06:33 PM

If DB came to the Saints in 2016 as another late career QB (ie Bobby Douglas, Kenny Stabler). He would still be one of the best QBs we ever had.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by exiled

If DB came to the Saints in 2016 as another late career QB (ie Bobby Douglas, Kenny Stabler). He would still be one of the best QBs we ever had.

This is very true. I was so pumped when we got Stabler. But, just like Manning, he had no help at all.

The Dude · 10-25-2016, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

This is a reactionary thread to something that someone (me) posted in another thread.
Part of my post said that I bet my son $20 that Drew would throw a pick6 in KC.
Someone (Dude) took that to mean that Drew throws more overall ints than other QBs.
He HAS thrown, to my mind, a lot more pick6s that other great QBs over the years.
That is why I made the bet with my son and also why I won that bet.
Now we have another sarcastic-ass thread trolling Brees' perceived decline.
Check the time codes from the reply to my post to the start of this thread.

This thread had absolutely nothing to do with your post in the other thread. Don't flatter yourself.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

This thread had absolutely nothing to do with your post in the other thread. Don't flatter yourself.

Um, can you then explain what it does mean as it is very comprehensible in its original form?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by burningmetal I didn't see where you said any of that, but you weren't wrong. I believe he has the most pick sixes in the NFL over the course of his career. There IS a downside to all the passes he throws, despite what his completion percentage would indicate. My only clue of a decline from Brees has been the excessive amount of dump off throws. Part of it has been bad O-line play, but he also seems like he gives up too quick. His decision making just hasn't been as sharp. But by no means has anything gone "kaput" with him. If this offensive line were better, not just against the pass rush, but if they could provide a running game, our offense could be 2011 good again. To me it's as simple as that. Been trying to verify or disprove that statement, but I did find that as of October 15, 2013 Brees was tied for 10th with the most career pick sixes at 19. Manning had 25 at the time and Favre had 35. Although, among all QB's that had thrown at least five pick sixes he is only ranked 111th in pick sixes per pass attempt. Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History

10-25-2016, 05:59 PM	#24
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Been trying to verify or disprove that statement, but I did find that as of October 15, 2013 Brees was tied for 10th with the most career pick sixes at 19. Manning had 25 at the time and Favre had 35. Although, among all QB's that had thrown at least five pick sixes he is only ranked 111th in pick sixes per pass attempt. Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts Dan Marino - 30 - .33% Payton Manning - 29 - .31% Drew Brees - 26 - .31% He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt. Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts Dan Marino - 30 - .33% Payton Manning - 29 - .31% Drew Brees - 26 - .31% He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt. Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers. So he doesn't suck? Wow!

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10-25-2016, 06:05 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Drew's now 4th on the list of total Pick 6's thrown Brett Favre - 35 - .32% of attempts Dan Marino - 30 - .33% Payton Manning - 29 - .31% Drew Brees - 26 - .31% He's now 90th in pick 6/pass attempt. Not bad company. All 4 are QBs that had to carry their teams most of their careers. Oh, and thanks for finishing the research. Busy trying to get dinner ready. Not easy these days with a bum spine. Rugby Saint II and Utah_Saint like this.

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exiled Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: on the road - now based in Austin, TX Posts: 474	Re: Bree's lost a step? If DB came to the Saints in 2016 as another late career QB (ie Bobby Douglas, Kenny Stabler). He would still be one of the best QBs we ever had. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by exiled If DB came to the Saints in 2016 as another late career QB (ie Bobby Douglas, Kenny Stabler). He would still be one of the best QBs we ever had. This is very true. I was so pumped when we got Stabler. But, just like Manning, he had no help at all.

10-25-2016, 08:04 PM	#29
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint This is a reactionary thread to something that someone (me) posted in another thread. Part of my post said that I bet my son $20 that Drew would throw a pick6 in KC. Someone (Dude) took that to mean that Drew throws more overall ints than other QBs. He HAS thrown, to my mind, a lot more pick6s that other great QBs over the years. That is why I made the bet with my son and also why I won that bet. Now we have another sarcastic-ass thread trolling Brees' perceived decline. Check the time codes from the reply to my post to the start of this thread. This thread had absolutely nothing to do with your post in the other thread. Don't flatter yourself.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Bree's lost a step? Originally Posted by The Dude This thread had absolutely nothing to do with your post in the other thread. Don't flatter yourself. Um, can you then explain what it does mean as it is very comprehensible in its original form?

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