2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

dizzle88 · 07-07-2017, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Kenny as a true safety?
he has not developed into that roll yet and probably never will live up to first round pick value.

Kenny as a chess piece to move around and play a LB/S roll?
This is his specialty and he is one of the better ones in the NFL.

Just do not over pay the toy in 2018.

But Rob Roy had his dream and Pro Bowl SS Malcolm Jenkins was not part of that dream. So two first round picks spent on one position. Bit costly for a S/LB

Rob Ryan was the biggest mistake of the Sean Payton Era

I doubt getting rid of Jenkins was Rob Ryan's decision, letting Jenkins go to sign Byrd has Sean Payton written all over it.

Just like when he tried to pay upwards of 50 mil for Paul Kruger but the Browns outbid him.

AsylumGuido · 07-07-2017, 08:30 AM

But all of that is in the past. Personnel moves have been much better over the past two years and things are really looking up.

K Major · 07-07-2017, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

But Rob Roy had his dream and Pro Bowl SS Malcolm Jenkins was not part of that dream. So two first round picks spent on one position. Bit costly for a S/LB

Rob Ryan was the biggest mistake of the Sean Payton Era

Bad coaching on Malcolm. I asked myself, how do you go from the worst rated safety in the NFL to one of the best? ... Coaching. If a player is struggling ...coach em up!!! MJ had a ton of flaws but glad he turned it around.

hagan714 · 07-07-2017, 11:22 AM

when your getting players to fit a coaches system it amazes me how coaches dodge the blame and the FO gets to be the scape goat.

Seer1 · 07-07-2017, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

when your getting players to fit a coaches system it amazes me how coaches dodge the blame and the FO gets to be the scape goat.

Or the player....

jeanpierre · 07-07-2017, 04:07 PM

I would've consider Max Unger a Top 5 Saint on this roster...

jeanpierre · 07-07-2017, 05:40 PM

AsylumGuido · 07-07-2017, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I would've consider Max Unger a Top 5 Saint on this roster...

https://twitter.com/SaintsNOW/status/883303783278817280

6th is close enough, JP.

jeanpierre · 07-07-2017, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

6th is close enough, JP.

Third. Guido, I rather believe after Brees and Cam Jordan, he's that important a piece to what we do...

All this brouhaha over Armstead, and the talking heads forget we went more than half the season without him...

If I have any trepidation about the upcoming season, it's Unger getting healthy to manage Brees' protection...

K Major · 07-07-2017, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If I have any trepidation about the upcoming season, it's Unger getting healthy to manage Brees' protection...

^^^^ This ^^^^

07-07-2017, 08:17 AM	#481
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 Kenny as a true safety? he has not developed into that roll yet and probably never will live up to first round pick value. Kenny as a chess piece to move around and play a LB/S roll? This is his specialty and he is one of the better ones in the NFL. Just do not over pay the toy in 2018. But Rob Roy had his dream and Pro Bowl SS Malcolm Jenkins was not part of that dream. So two first round picks spent on one position. Bit costly for a S/LB Rob Ryan was the biggest mistake of the Sean Payton Era I doubt getting rid of Jenkins was Rob Ryan's decision, letting Jenkins go to sign Byrd has Sean Payton written all over it. Just like when he tried to pay upwards of 50 mil for Paul Kruger but the Browns outbid him.

07-07-2017, 08:30 AM	#482
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook But all of that is in the past. Personnel moves have been much better over the past two years and things are really looking up.

07-07-2017, 09:33 AM	#483
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 But Rob Roy had his dream and Pro Bowl SS Malcolm Jenkins was not part of that dream. So two first round picks spent on one position. Bit costly for a S/LB Rob Ryan was the biggest mistake of the Sean Payton Era Bad coaching on Malcolm. I asked myself, how do you go from the worst rated safety in the NFL to one of the best? ... Coaching. If a player is struggling ...coach em up!!! MJ had a ton of flaws but glad he turned it around. Seer1 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook when your getting players to fit a coaches system it amazes me how coaches dodge the blame and the FO gets to be the scape goat.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 when your getting players to fit a coaches system it amazes me how coaches dodge the blame and the FO gets to be the scape goat. Or the player....

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre I would've consider Max Unger a Top 5 Saint on this roster... https://twitter.com/SaintsNOW/status/883303783278817280 6th is close enough, JP.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido 6th is close enough, JP. Third. Guido, I rather believe after Brees and Cam Jordan, he's that important a piece to what we do... All this brouhaha over Armstead, and the talking heads forget we went more than half the season without him... If I have any trepidation about the upcoming season, it's Unger getting healthy to manage Brees' protection... ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre If I have any trepidation about the upcoming season, it's Unger getting healthy to manage Brees' protection... ^^^^ This ^^^^

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