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2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - Fresh Meat? OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees , 10 - Chase Daniel , 18 - Garrett Grayson, 2 - Ryan Nassib FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn , 39 - ...
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08-03-2017, 09:51 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - Fresh Meat?
 OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson, 2 - Ryan Nassib FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA) RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris CadetWR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Rashad LawrenceLT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 62- Kristjan Sokoli RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips *NFI SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 81 - Jordan Williams, 87 - Tommylee Lewis DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp, 70 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI NT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196), 58 - Obum Gwacham SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Manti Te'o, 99 - Adam Bighill WLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11) SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 31 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush, 35 - Robenson Therezie LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 34 - Dejaun Butler (UDFA), 40 - Delvin Breaux KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Thomas Gafford, 49 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA) RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM OC 60 - Max Unger LT 72 - Terron Armstead Roster Count - Total: 00; Offense: 45; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4 *Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players PRACTICE SQUAD* 74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption) RESERVE/INJURED* LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe WR 85 - Dan Arnold RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS* DT 90 - Nick Fairley RESERVE/RETIRED* OL 62 - Chris Watt KEY: PROJECTED STARTER FREE AGENT ROOKIE INJURED |
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08-05-2017, 05:45 AM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
KEY QUESTIONS - OFFENSIVE LINE
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 62- Kristjan Sokoli RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe Ultimately you have to earn a job, but here are some scenarios I see playing out... Unger may not play Week 1 or even 3, but for him to be that close would mean another DE, RB or CB...How important will it be for Unger and Kelemete to be ready at the beginning of the season?!? Assuming Ramczyk just does a great job at LT, do we keep Bryce Harris with an aged Zach Strief?!? And does Terron Armstead get moved in the offseason??? Peat and Warford look to have tremendous size, mass at their respective positions and seem to be part of a plan to run the ball a little more; after Kelemete, who will probably already be playing C for a couple of weeks, who backs these guys up??? Out of Fullington, Turner, and LeRibeus, who is making this roster??? |
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08-05-2017, 07:30 AM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
[quote=jeanpierre;757451]KEY QUESTIONS - OFFENSIVE LINE
LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 61 - Josh LeRibeus, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 62- Kristjan Sokoli RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe Ultimately you have to earn a job, but here are some scenarios I see playing out...
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Scan the waiver wire for a veteran filling as a camp cut. If not Drew goes under center 
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
If you did I would bounce OT to the top of the area of needs list in 2018. [/B]
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
OG looks hopeful, Fullington and Turner looks to be next men up and we run the ball
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Fullington and Turner is getting my vote I guess. The saints will play that PUP/IR game to keep a player while we over stock the OL till Unger comes back
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08-05-2017, 10:34 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - Still Early Projection
OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn RB (6) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington C (2) OC 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief TE (2) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103) DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer NT (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 95 - Tyeler Davison DE (3) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196) SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti MLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Manti Te'o WLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76) RCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 25 - Rafael Bush LCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 21 - De’Vante Harris KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher RESERVE/PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO PERFORM LT 72 - Terron Armstead Roster Count - Total: 00; Offense: 45; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4 *Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players PRACTICE SQUAD* 74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption) KEY: PROJECTED STARTER FREE AGENT ROOKIE INJURED |
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08-05-2017, 10:38 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Is it just me or has this group ^^^^^^ been awfully quiet at camp thus far ?
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08-05-2017, 10:56 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by K Major
Other than the Coby Fleener/Vonn Bell scraps, it's been pretty quiet...
Josh Hill did get his bell wrung a few times, most notably by Kenny V... This camp set up beautifully for John Phillips until he had his appendectomy... FA Gary Barnidge, 31yo, is still unsigned; I liken him to former Saints TE David Thomas... I'd keep an eye on Clay Harbor, he was a trendy,sneaky Fantasy TE just a couple of seasons ago... |
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08-03-2017, 09:54 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Man, what's with signing these short lifers with injuries?!? WTH is doing the physicals?!? A one-eyed, peg-legged crack head could pass a physical with the Saints right now...
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08-03-2017, 10:26 PM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Is there some kind of advantage to a release with an injury designation? Does it give the player a little travel money that doesn't count against the cap, or give the team some kind of extra bonus in signing other players?
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08-04-2017, 07:21 AM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by Seer1
If a player is waived with injury designation they can be placed upon the releasing team's IR if the player clears waivers (none of the other 31 teams claims the player.)
It looks like the Saints want to keep him for next year. He could have either had an injury coming in and they hoped it would heal or he sustained one in camp. |
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08-04-2017, 09:44 AM
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Or simply redshirt him?
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