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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; You still giving up on Kikaha at DE, JP, even on a rotational basis? I still think he has the talent to have more of an impact than being slotted as a backup Sam....

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Old 03-12-2017, 04:05 PM   #1
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

You still giving up on Kikaha at DE, JP, even on a rotational basis? I still think he has the talent to have more of an impact than being slotted as a backup Sam.
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You still giving up on Kikaha at DE, JP, even on a rotational basis? I still think he has the talent to have more of an impact than being slotted as a backup Sam.
No Guido, not completely; maybe given up as a DE, but not as a linebacker...

You're definitely right that he can be a rush backer on 3rd downs, but defense will know what's coming if that's all he does...

Can see him rotating with Anthony, which will give him different looks to opposing offenses, thereby giving opponents pause as to what he'll do pre-snap...

Just don't believe he has the base, legs in a 4-3 to set the edge as a DE...

And honestly, I think he'll be limited this season coming back from his third knee operation...

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No Guido, not completely; maybe given up as a DE, but not as a linebacker...

You're definitely right that he can be a rush backer on 3rd downs, but defense will know what's coming if that's all he does...

Can see him rotating with Anthony, which will give him different looks to opposing offenses, thereby giving opponents pause as to what he'll do pre-snap...

Just don't believe he has the base, legs in a 4-3 to set the edge as a DE...

And honestly, I think he'll be limited this season coming back from his third knee operation...
I think Kikiha will play DE and DE only. He's an EDGE through and through. He wouldn't make a good LB. He's slow and he isn't good in coverage. When he was coming out of the draft all the analysts said he was most comfortable with his hand in the ground, though his best fit would be as a 3-4 EDGE. If he can't contribute as a DE on this roster then I think it's best we cut him now and find somebody who can.
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I think Kikiha will play DE and DE only. He's an EDGE through and through. He wouldn't make a good LB. He's slow and he isn't good in coverage. When he was coming out of the draft all the analysts said he was most comfortable with his hand in the ground, though his best fit would be as a 3-4 EDGE. If he can't contribute as a DE on this roster then I think it's best we cut him now and find somebody who can.
You're dead on that he's a 3-4 OLB only. If we can get a fourth or fifth for him and ship him to Pittsburgh, Denver, or another 3-4 scheme team, we should...

I'd even consider making him a conditional trade where his trade value would be commensurate with his success with his new team...

But he should be moved, he can't play DE in our 4-3; he doesn't have the legs, knees to hold and set the edge...
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But he should be moved, he can't play DE in our 4-3; he doesn't have the legs, knees to hold and set the edge...
You're probably right. At best he's probably a 3rd down specialist as a DE. DE is going to be so important for us in this draft. We should get tons of pressure up the middle though with Rankins and Fairley. I can't wait to see Rankins in his second year. One more piece and this line could wreak havoc. I love the Okafor signing though. If he's healthy, watch out.
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