Brandin Cooks Trade Talks

voodooido · 03-04-2017, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

One of the announcers at the Combine had the Saints on the LF short list. Really? Not even sure how they came to that conclusion. I will say though Blount sure did give Brady a lot of relief this season. 18TD for Blount. Sure makes the job of an older QB a hell of a lot easier.

Everyone has been talking about the Saints being more of a run team to prolong the life of Brees. We trade cooks for a rd 1 this year and mutiple next. Dreaft LF7 at 11 and defense with the other rd1 and 2.

WillSaints81 · 03-04-2017, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Everyone has been talking about the Saints being more of a run team to prolong the life of Brees. We trade cooks for a rd 1 this year and mutiple next. Dreaft LF7 at 11 and defense with the other rd1 and 2.

But is Payton going to actually run the ball more?

voodooido · 03-04-2017, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

But is Payton going to actually run the ball more?

If he wants to keep Brees he will. No way Brees can continue this pace more than 2 more years. Drew attempted 676 passes last year. Ryan was right at #2 with 534. That's a big difference

ScottF · 03-04-2017, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

If he wants to keep Brees he will. No way Brees can continue this pace more than 2 more years. Drew attempted 676 passes last year. Ryan was right at #2 with 534. That's a big difference

Why? look at Brees' sack and times hit last year. Way down. Plus he took every snap. Our really "bad" o-line was 5th in sacks against in '16 and 8th in '15

lee909 · 03-04-2017, 02:51 AM

Ive said before about Ingram
I kike him but he is a bit of a jack of all trades RB. He can do everything but nothing to an exceptional level. He doesnt have the speed of the top backs or the power of the biggest. Ive often thought we could do with a monster back there for short yardage. A Blount,Jacobs type. Once the get their feet moving they are getting 2 to 3 yards wether you like it or not

lee909 · 03-04-2017, 04:50 AM

He wont be there at 11 imo

hagan714 · 03-04-2017, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

He wont be there at 11 imo

unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5.

The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure

All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box?

Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster.

It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense.

jnormand · 03-04-2017, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5.

The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure

All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box?

Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster.

It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense.

I agree. I don't see why so many people think Leonard Fournette is a good choice this year. I agree he's a polarizing and exciting player, but the needs on defense are more important. And you're right, the offensive line is built for zone running. It doesn't make sense to draft him. Mark Ingram has played plenty well enough to utilize as our regular back. If we drafted Fournette, then Mark Ingram would need to be traded. There's no point to making him a third down back or something. And no point in drafting Fournette to be a short yardage back.

IMO, the focus needs to be on the defensive line, LBs and secondary. Maybe even the offensive line. We have huge holes and question marks all over those.

RB is not a need right now.

I'm not going to piss and moan if they draft Fournette, but they better have big plans to do something about the gaping holes on defense if they go that route. We already know that a really good offense and a ****ty defense won't get you more then 7-9.

st thomas · 03-06-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

He wont be there at 11 imo

carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

Beastmode · 03-06-2017, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

Praying LF stays out of our Division. We are going to get a good player at 11. If we can get two picks in the first even better. If Panthers miss on LF and we get two picks in the first that is the most ideal situation to me. Have to fix this weak defense. If we can go from 27th to say 18th in that department we are going to make the playoffs.

03-04-2017, 04:09 AM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by Beastmode One of the announcers at the Combine had the Saints on the LF short list. Really? Not even sure how they came to that conclusion. I will say though Blount sure did give Brady a lot of relief this season. 18TD for Blount. Sure makes the job of an older QB a hell of a lot easier. Everyone has been talking about the Saints being more of a run team to prolong the life of Brees. We trade cooks for a rd 1 this year and mutiple next. Dreaft LF7 at 11 and defense with the other rd1 and 2.
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03-04-2017, 02:50 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by WillSaints81 But is Payton going to actually run the ball more? If he wants to keep Brees he will. No way Brees can continue this pace more than 2 more years. Drew attempted 676 passes last year. Ryan was right at #2 with 534. That's a big difference
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by voodooido If he wants to keep Brees he will. No way Brees can continue this pace more than 2 more years. Drew attempted 676 passes last year. Ryan was right at #2 with 534. That's a big difference Why? look at Brees' sack and times hit last year. Way down. Plus he took every snap. Our really "bad" o-line was 5th in sacks against in '16 and 8th in '15

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Ive said before about Ingram I kike him but he is a bit of a jack of all trades RB. He can do everything but nothing to an exceptional level. He doesnt have the speed of the top backs or the power of the biggest. Ive often thought we could do with a monster back there for short yardage. A Blount,Jacobs type. Once the get their feet moving they are getting 2 to 3 yards wether you like it or not Beastmode and halloween 65 like this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by voodooido Everyone has been talking about the Saints being more of a run team to prolong the life of Brees. We trade cooks for a rd 1 this year and mutiple next. Dreaft LF7 at 11 and defense with the other rd1 and 2. But is Payton going to actually run the ball more?

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 He wont be there at 11 imo unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5. The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box? Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster. It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense. jnormand and 44Champs like this.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,737	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by hagan714 unless all this Cooks trade stuff is to get pick 5. The move makes no sense. LF running style would require the saints to redo their thinking on the OL. We are not a power run scheme team. The OL is built for zone blocking. I do not think LF would do well running behind a zone scheme. Brooks? sure All this after taking the one WR that had the skill set to get teams out of playing 8 in the box? Sounds like the saints would be painting themselves into a corner on the offensive side of the ball while keeping the defense in the dumpster. It makes no sense to me unless FA money goes into the right side of the line and we get some speed at WR to take the top off a defense. I agree. I don't see why so many people think Leonard Fournette is a good choice this year. I agree he's a polarizing and exciting player, but the needs on defense are more important. And you're right, the offensive line is built for zone running. It doesn't make sense to draft him. Mark Ingram has played plenty well enough to utilize as our regular back. If we drafted Fournette, then Mark Ingram would need to be traded. There's no point to making him a third down back or something. And no point in drafting Fournette to be a short yardage back. IMO, the focus needs to be on the defensive line, LBs and secondary. Maybe even the offensive line. We have huge holes and question marks all over those. RB is not a need right now. I'm not going to piss and moan if they draft Fournette, but they better have big plans to do something about the gaping holes on defense if they go that route. We already know that a really good offense and a ****ty defense won't get you more then 7-9. hagan714, 44Champs and MarchingOn like this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 He wont be there at 11 imo carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by st thomas carolina thinking the same thing about newton pick up LF and keep the ball away from QB as much as possible. Praying LF stays out of our Division. We are going to get a good player at 11. If we can get two picks in the first even better. If Panthers miss on LF and we get two picks in the first that is the most ideal situation to me. Have to fix this weak defense. If we can go from 27th to say 18th in that department we are going to make the playoffs.
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