So long as he signs nothing then no deal has been agreed(even if it has behind closed doors). Bring him in and send him back without a deal and see what they want in trade. Thats all im saying.


All teams talk to agents behind the scenes to talk outline of numbers


The Pats may well take less as if they dont they have a p1ssed off player ad a player that is a FA next year and assuming they dont sign a same value player the max they get is a 2019 3rd round comp pick

You could very well be right that they do that, though I don't see it happening that way. I think it's more likely they shop him to another team if the Saints won't make a formal offer.

I don't want to even give up the #32 pick for him, personally, for the reasons I've stated. But I absolutely would not give up the #11.

You could very well be right that they do that, though I don't see it happening that way. I think it's more likely they shop him to another team if the Saints won't make a formal offer.

I don't want to even give up the #32 pick for him, personally, for the reasons I've stated. But I absolutely would not give up the #11.

Im in full agreement

I dont want to give anything beyond a 3 up
I could stomach a 2 but not happily

Id rather draft a CB and bring back Moore and go after Butler next year if needed fr nothing

Yeah, I'm just not really feeling the priority behind getting a corner at all, but if they are concerned about depth, I could see drafting one in the second round and using those two first rounders on more pressing needs.

But if they think they HAVE to have Butler, I wouldn't want to give up more than a 2nd, either. I'm as certain as I can be that they would trade rape us again, though.

Cooks - 23 years old, played 3 seasons

Butler - 27 years old, been in league 2 seasons

If the trade happens we get probably 3 years out of him before he declines, whereas NE will get more than 7-8 years out of Cooks.

I'll bet you $20 Cooks isn't a Patriot in three years.

I'll take that bet.

I don't want your money, I want his.