Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11

hagan714 · 04-19-2017, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hagan, why are you scared??

Aren't we in "win now" mode? Butler (2nd team ALL PRO) isn't a sure thing but he is sure bet than 99.9 % of the rookies out there. Marcus Peter types are rare. As I stated before, I'm hoping it's the 42nd pick instead of the 32. Who is to say that pick isn't another Anthony?

The Saints are past due for a edge rusher and corner back.

why pay the price for a shut down CB for a player that can not survive on an island all alone?

At this price i would have pushed for top CB in FA.

get back to the playoffs and/or win the division then talk to about win now attitude.

K Major · 03-31-2017, 05:03 PM

I'm taking Foster.

pherein · 04-02-2017, 02:22 AM

Barnet looks good but Id rather have Solomon Thomas if hes not taken or if we moved up at all ID take Solomon Thomas DE. Solid all around DL man with great instincts and more natural weight on the bones. DT I have Larry Ogunjobi. IF we scored Larry Ogunjobi DT and Solomon Thomas DE that would be amazing to me. Think thats why the #11 and #32 is so important, could happen.

If we pick an RB ID take Samaje Perine over most. He has the skills that work in the NFL. A Deuce/Lynch type of runner with power, and we finally have and effective inside runner.

jeanpierre · 04-02-2017, 06:18 AM

I'm starting to warm to Hagan's mancrush and the idea of taking McCaffrey at No. 11...

No, he might not be a traditional 20+ rushing attempts per game type of player...

McCaffrey would be like a Shady McCoy type of back getting 25 touches total...

Plus, it would help the defense by eating up the clock with that style of offense...

And Payton seems to be on this kick of getting back to how his tenure started with Bush...

If I were GM, I still like DL Malik McDowell from Michigan State...

He can play up and down the defensive line, he's a physical beast, and only 20 years old...

jeanpierre · 04-02-2017, 06:27 AM

I've really liked the idea of taking Foster, if he fell to us; but now I've got concerns...

While I didn't care for him going big time before his medical exams (and we still don't know if he's been checked out third party), I was bothered more by this "he'll meet with you in the LBer's room at Alabama and discuss it then kinda-thing...

If I'm spending that high of a pick, he'll be examined by my doctors and he'll answer question at a meeting of my choosing...

The other thing is that there's starting to be some grumbling among scouts about his ability to diagnose plays properly...

Now that my be opposing teams playing the red herring game, but he did miss some assignments late against Clemson...

We've already got a great linebacker that can hit who has the same problem, so I'm not looking to burden Mike Nolan too much...

jeanpierre · 04-02-2017, 06:36 AM

My darkhorse is still DE/DT Malik McDowell, Michigan State, 6' 6", 295 lbs., who's rising late in rankings...

Really like that he could play DE in the base and move in like Cam in nickel and dime packages...

He's only twenty years old and think he'd be great paired up with our new DL Coach Ryan Nielsen...

Now reported he was frustrated with his role this past year having to play NT with no one around him...

He physically tested real well and he's got great size, length and 35" arms to control, jam offensive linemen...

Reminds me alot of a young Cam Jordan who'll be a late first rounder many teams will regret passing on...

lee909 · 04-02-2017, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

My darkhorse is still DE/DT Malik McDowell, Michigan State, 6' 6", 295 lbs., who's rising late in rankings...

Really like that he could play DE in the base and move in like Cam in nickel and dime packages...

He's only twenty years old and think he'd be great paired up with our new DL Coach Ryan Nielsen...

Now reported he was frustrated with his role this past year having to play NT with no one around him...

He physically tested real well and he's got great size, length and 35" arms to control, jam offensive linemen...

Reminds me alot of a young Cam Jordan who'll be a late first rounder many teams will regret passing on...

I read teams are worried he doesn't care enough about football. No love for the game and his motor just turns on and off all game.

jeanpierre · 04-02-2017, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I read teams are worried he doesn't care enough about football. No love for the game and his motor just turns on and off all game.

He's a top five talent that some teams want him to fall to them, so that his getting pumped down out by schills; happens every year...

Malik is only twenty years old and he's still learning the game and he didn't like being put at NT by State last season...

Guess he was right to be upset as it has hurt his draft stock, costing him $$$...

McDowell is a better athlete and should have been playing 3T and/or 5T; he will be every bit as good as Cam Jordan...

Could you imagine have two players of Jordan's caliber bookending the defensive line?

He's the goods are Drew Rosenhaus wouldn't be jacking around with him...

lee909 · 04-02-2017, 11:36 AM

Just going by whst ive read. As i said before not watched much college football last year so playing catch up

jeanpierre · 04-02-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Just going by whst ive read. As i said before not watched much college football last year so playing catch up

He had a better year in 2015 when he wasn't being doubled, and triple-teamed and wasn't stuck at the NT all season...

Really hope McDowell's getting real consideration by the Saints and our scouts don't mail it in as they've done in the past...

View Poll Results: If Sean Payton himself were to phone you and asks "who would you take?", what would be you
DE Derek Barnett	13	30.23%
RB Leonard Fournette	2	4.65%
LB Reuben Foster	18	41.86%
SS Jamal Adams	1	2.33%
RB Christian McCaffrey	2	4.65%
DE Taco Charlton	4	9.30%
Other (List in Comments)	3	6.98%
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03-31-2017, 05:03 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 I'm taking Foster.

04-02-2017, 02:22 AM	#3
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Barnet looks good but Id rather have Solomon Thomas if hes not taken or if we moved up at all ID take Solomon Thomas DE. Solid all around DL man with great instincts and more natural weight on the bones. DT I have Larry Ogunjobi. IF we scored Larry Ogunjobi DT and Solomon Thomas DE that would be amazing to me. Think thats why the #11 and #32 is so important, could happen. If we pick an RB ID take Samaje Perine over most. He has the skills that work in the NFL. A Deuce/Lynch type of runner with power, and we finally have and effective inside runner. mleg1972 likes this.
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04-02-2017, 06:18 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 I'm starting to warm to Hagan's mancrush and the idea of taking McCaffrey at No. 11... No, he might not be a traditional 20+ rushing attempts per game type of player... McCaffrey would be like a Shady McCoy type of back getting 25 touches total... Plus, it would help the defense by eating up the clock with that style of offense... And Payton seems to be on this kick of getting back to how his tenure started with Bush... If I were GM, I still like DL Malik McDowell from Michigan State... He can play up and down the defensive line, he's a physical beast, and only 20 years old... jnormand and mleg1972 like this.
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04-02-2017, 06:27 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 I've really liked the idea of taking Foster, if he fell to us; but now I've got concerns... While I didn't care for him going big time before his medical exams (and we still don't know if he's been checked out third party), I was bothered more by this "he'll meet with you in the LBer's room at Alabama and discuss it then kinda-thing... If I'm spending that high of a pick, he'll be examined by my doctors and he'll answer question at a meeting of my choosing... The other thing is that there's starting to be some grumbling among scouts about his ability to diagnose plays properly... Now that my be opposing teams playing the red herring game, but he did miss some assignments late against Clemson... We've already got a great linebacker that can hit who has the same problem, so I'm not looking to burden Mike Nolan too much... mleg1972 and MarchingOn like this.
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04-19-2017, 12:43 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by K Major Hagan, why are you scared?? Aren't we in "win now" mode? Butler (2nd team ALL PRO) isn't a sure thing but he is sure bet than 99.9 % of the rookies out there. Marcus Peter types are rare. As I stated before, I'm hoping it's the 42nd pick instead of the 32. Who is to say that pick isn't another Anthony? The Saints are past due for a edge rusher and corner back. why pay the price for a shut down CB for a player that can not survive on an island all alone? At this price i would have pushed for top CB in FA. get back to the playoffs and/or win the division then talk to about win now attitude.

04-02-2017, 06:36 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 My darkhorse is still DE/DT Malik McDowell, Michigan State, 6' 6", 295 lbs., who's rising late in rankings... Really like that he could play DE in the base and move in like Cam in nickel and dime packages... He's only twenty years old and think he'd be great paired up with our new DL Coach Ryan Nielsen... Now reported he was frustrated with his role this past year having to play NT with no one around him... He physically tested real well and he's got great size, length and 35" arms to control, jam offensive linemen... Reminds me alot of a young Cam Jordan who'll be a late first rounder many teams will regret passing on...
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04-02-2017, 06:56 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by jeanpierre My darkhorse is still DE/DT Malik McDowell, Michigan State, 6' 6", 295 lbs., who's rising late in rankings... Really like that he could play DE in the base and move in like Cam in nickel and dime packages... He's only twenty years old and think he'd be great paired up with our new DL Coach Ryan Nielsen... Now reported he was frustrated with his role this past year having to play NT with no one around him... He physically tested real well and he's got great size, length and 35" arms to control, jam offensive linemen... Reminds me alot of a young Cam Jordan who'll be a late first rounder many teams will regret passing on... I read teams are worried he doesn't care enough about football. No love for the game and his motor just turns on and off all game.

04-02-2017, 11:22 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by lee909 I read teams are worried he doesn't care enough about football. No love for the game and his motor just turns on and off all game. He's a top five talent that some teams want him to fall to them, so that his getting pumped down out by schills; happens every year... Malik is only twenty years old and he's still learning the game and he didn't like being put at NT by State last season... Guess he was right to be upset as it has hurt his draft stock, costing him $$$... McDowell is a better athlete and should have been playing 3T and/or 5T; he will be every bit as good as Cam Jordan... Could you imagine have two players of Jordan's caliber bookending the defensive line? He's the goods are Drew Rosenhaus wouldn't be jacking around with him...
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04-02-2017, 11:36 AM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Just going by whst ive read. As i said before not watched much college football last year so playing catch up

04-02-2017, 11:56 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11 Originally Posted by lee909 Just going by whst ive read. As i said before not watched much college football last year so playing catch up He had a better year in 2015 when he wasn't being doubled, and triple-teamed and wasn't stuck at the NT all season... Really hope McDowell's getting real consideration by the Saints and our scouts don't mail it in as they've done in the past... lee909 likes this.

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