Post mortem 2017 draft

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2017, 03:55 PM

Muhammad if coached up to use his hands more and if he can get that needed bend when turning the corner...we could have something with him.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2017, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Muhammad if coached up to use his hands more and if he can get that needed bend when turning the corner...we could have something with him.

Why not spend a 6th on him. Better than a QB that would never see the field.

NonieT · 04-30-2017, 04:54 PM

Read this about Muhammid. It might change your opinion.

First Analysis: Saints Al-Quadin Muhammad to restart interrupted dream | Saints Wire

foreverfan · 04-30-2017, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

VIDEO: Bobby, Deuce, & Mike grade the Saints' 2017 draft class | WWL

foreverfan · 04-30-2017, 05:15 PM

The reasons for injuries

College and High School players overload muscles for the amount of bones they have. This leads to them being too large for their bone structure and unable to take on the constant beatings their bones were not designed to take. This makes them injury prone. Happens every year.

CharityMike · 04-30-2017, 05:39 PM

And also remember..we don't have the same coaches we did the previous years. Lets give our new ones a chance and see what they can do.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2017, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

And also remember..we don't have the same coaches we did the previous years. Lets give our new ones a chance and see what they can do.

Beyond the understanding of some.

|Mitch| · 05-01-2017, 12:46 AM

Draft Picks

Round 1: CB Marshon Lattimore, OT Ryan Ramczyk

Round 2: S Marcus Williams

Round 3: RB Alvin Kamara, LB Alex Anzalone, LB Trey Hendrickson

Round 4: None

Round 5: None

Round 6: DE Al-Quadin Muhammad

Round 7: None

It's well-documented that the New Orleans Saints secondary has been atrocious for what seems like a lifetime.

How do you improve it with essentially one pick in a draft? You draft the top cornerback in the entire thing—that's how.

The Saints did just that in getting Marshon Lattimore, who will be the team's top cornerback from day one. There's really not a whole lot of bad things to say about Lattimore.

The Saints' other Round 1 pick, offensive lineman Ryan Ramczyk, wasn't bad, either. A bit of a luxury pick? Sure. New Orleans' offensive line is already pretty good, but Ramczyk will have opportunities to play this year. It is a bit of a weird pick with the clock ticking on quarterback Drew Brees, but it's not terrible.

Adding Marcus Williams to their secondary is also another quality addition. Williams is probably a safety I'd play with two deep safeties as he does have a tendency to be faked out by some quarterbacks, but he should be fine if asked to be by himself. He is a heck of a playmaker with great ball skills. While he doesn't deliver any crushing blows, he does get the job done tackling.

With three picks in the third round, the Saints invested in some linebacking help with Alex Anzalone and Trey Hendrickson—a position the Saints definitely needed more depth to.

Alvin Kamara was an interesting pick and will add to a three-headed monster in the backfield consisting of himself, Adrian Peterson and Mark Ingram, though he'll likely be primarily used in a pass-catching role.

Al-Quadin Muhammad has some off-field baggage, including an arrest, but he should serve as a decent part-time, pure pass-rusher for the Saints—a position they definitely needed to improve via the draft.

Beefing up the defense and making the offense a bit more dynamic were things the Saints needed to do, and they did so with six picks in the first three rounds.

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|Mitch| · 05-01-2017, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...64585146486784

Talk about a steal! v

Hendrickson finished his senior season number one nationally in blocked kicks (4), number 21 in sacks (.79 per game) and number 32 in tackles for a loss.

04-30-2017, 03:55 PM	#11
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Muhammad if coached up to use his hands more and if he can get that needed bend when turning the corner...we could have something with him.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Muhammad if coached up to use his hands more and if he can get that needed bend when turning the corner...we could have something with him. Why not spend a 6th on him. Better than a QB that would never see the field. Rell&Gold likes this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by SmashMouth VIDEO: Bobby, Deuce, & Mike grade the Saints' 2017 draft class \| WWL

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft The reasons for injuries College and High School players overload muscles for the amount of bones they have. This leads to them being too large for their bone structure and unable to take on the constant beatings their bones were not designed to take. This makes them injury prone. Happens every year.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft And also remember..we don't have the same coaches we did the previous years. Lets give our new ones a chance and see what they can do. AsylumGuido and Seer1 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by CharityMike And also remember..we don't have the same coaches we did the previous years. Lets give our new ones a chance and see what they can do. Beyond the understanding of some.

05-01-2017, 12:46 AM	#18
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Draft Picks Round 1: CB Marshon Lattimore, OT Ryan Ramczyk Round 2: S Marcus Williams Round 3: RB Alvin Kamara, LB Alex Anzalone, LB Trey Hendrickson Round 4: None Round 5: None Round 6: DE Al-Quadin Muhammad Round 7: None It's well-documented that the New Orleans Saints secondary has been atrocious for what seems like a lifetime. How do you improve it with essentially one pick in a draft? You draft the top cornerback in the entire thing—that's how. The Saints did just that in getting Marshon Lattimore, who will be the team's top cornerback from day one. There's really not a whole lot of bad things to say about Lattimore. The Saints' other Round 1 pick, offensive lineman Ryan Ramczyk, wasn't bad, either. A bit of a luxury pick? Sure. New Orleans' offensive line is already pretty good, but Ramczyk will have opportunities to play this year. It is a bit of a weird pick with the clock ticking on quarterback Drew Brees, but it's not terrible. Adding Marcus Williams to their secondary is also another quality addition. Williams is probably a safety I'd play with two deep safeties as he does have a tendency to be faked out by some quarterbacks, but he should be fine if asked to be by himself. He is a heck of a playmaker with great ball skills. While he doesn't deliver any crushing blows, he does get the job done tackling. With three picks in the third round, the Saints invested in some linebacking help with Alex Anzalone and Trey Hendrickson—a position the Saints definitely needed more depth to. Alvin Kamara was an interesting pick and will add to a three-headed monster in the backfield consisting of himself, Adrian Peterson and Mark Ingram, though he'll likely be primarily used in a pass-catching role. Al-Quadin Muhammad has some off-field baggage, including an arrest, but he should serve as a decent part-time, pure pass-rusher for the Saints—a position they definitely needed to improve via the draft. Beefing up the defense and making the offense a bit more dynamic were things the Saints needed to do, and they did so with six picks in the first three rounds. ...

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...64585146486784 Talk about a steal! v Hendrickson finished his senior season number one nationally in blocked kicks (4), number 21 in sacks (.79 per game) and number 32 in tackles for a loss.

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