Hook, Line , and Sphincter

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2017, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Of course it has. It was why we couldnt sign a guard last year even though we needed one. It was why we lacked depth last year in our secondary. Injuries are going to happen this year too. Matter of fact we have already lost two starters and we haven't even put pads on. The only way to handle that is depth. We have better depth this year, I think, but of course it has handcuffed us. If not then why did we end up 7-9?

The Patriots played four games without their starting qb and had a better record than we did through four games. The lost the best tight end in the league as well and won the super bowl. Of course 65 mil is a problem

We could have had all the cap space in the world last year but when you have your top SIX CB's end on the IR you are likely going to have the league's worst pass defense. There wasn't anyone available that all the money in the world could get.

And you keep throwing out this $65 million figure. This isn't the past. Dead money is not an issue THIS year nor will it be an issue anytime in the future. The Saints had four major bad personnel situations that accounted for 90% of that dead cap. In the past. Deal with it. Move on. It is pointless to continue to dwell on something that is no longer an issue at all.

The Dude · 07-28-2017, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We could have had all the cap space in the world last year but when you have your top SIX CB's end on the IR you are likely going to have the league's worst pass defense. There wasn't anyone available that all the money in the world could get.

And you keep throwing out this $65 million figure. This isn't the past. Dead money is not an issue THIS year nor will it be an issue anytime in the future. The Saints had four major bad personnel situations that accounted for 90% of that dead cap. In the past. Deal with it. Move on. It is pointless to continue to dwell on something that is no longer an issue at all.

And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money.

AsylumGuido · 07-28-2017, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money.

They tried getting better players by spending money. That turned into Browner, Byrd and Lewis that in turn turned into dead money. Is it the chicken or the egg?

spkb25 · 07-28-2017, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money.

No doubt...65,000,000 is a lot of lost money.

I think we have more talent now, but this was just a terrible job by our coach and front office. two years in a row we lead in dead money. It is crazy. grant it, the situation does looked to be good here on out, but a lot of wasted time for Drew from this. Saying anything else is being disingenuous.

07-28-2017, 02:48 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Hook, Line , and Sphincter Originally Posted by spkb25 Of course it has. It was why we couldnt sign a guard last year even though we needed one. It was why we lacked depth last year in our secondary. Injuries are going to happen this year too. Matter of fact we have already lost two starters and we haven't even put pads on. The only way to handle that is depth. We have better depth this year, I think, but of course it has handcuffed us. If not then why did we end up 7-9? The Patriots played four games without their starting qb and had a better record than we did through four games. The lost the best tight end in the league as well and won the super bowl. Of course 65 mil is a problem We could have had all the cap space in the world last year but when you have your top SIX CB's end on the IR you are likely going to have the league's worst pass defense. There wasn't anyone available that all the money in the world could get. And you keep throwing out this $65 million figure. This isn't the past. Dead money is not an issue THIS year nor will it be an issue anytime in the future. The Saints had four major bad personnel situations that accounted for 90% of that dead cap. In the past. Deal with it. Move on. It is pointless to continue to dwell on something that is no longer an issue at all. neugey, jlouhill and ChrisXVI like this.
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07-28-2017, 03:59 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Hook, Line , and Sphincter Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We could have had all the cap space in the world last year but when you have your top SIX CB's end on the IR you are likely going to have the league's worst pass defense. There wasn't anyone available that all the money in the world could get. And you keep throwing out this $65 million figure. This isn't the past. Dead money is not an issue THIS year nor will it be an issue anytime in the future. The Saints had four major bad personnel situations that accounted for 90% of that dead cap. In the past. Deal with it. Move on. It is pointless to continue to dwell on something that is no longer an issue at all. And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money.
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07-28-2017, 04:17 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Hook, Line , and Sphincter Originally Posted by The Dude And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money. They tried getting better players by spending money. That turned into Browner, Byrd and Lewis that in turn turned into dead money. Is it the chicken or the egg?

07-28-2017, 05:01 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Hook, Line , and Sphincter Originally Posted by The Dude And if it weren't for dead money we could have had better depth at CB. Who knows, Had we the cap space we probably would have had different and better players there to begin with. Payton has said we need to get better at CB for years. ONE reason we haven't is dead money. No doubt...65,000,000 is a lot of lost money. I think we have more talent now, but this was just a terrible job by our coach and front office. two years in a row we lead in dead money. It is crazy. grant it, the situation does looked to be good here on out, but a lot of wasted time for Drew from this. Saying anything else is being disingenuous.

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