92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks

K Major · 08-21-2017, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble.

The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017.

What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September.

If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about.

SFIAH

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-21-2017, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

As I said, I am encouraged. But this is still all practice and evaluation, often with players on both sides of the ball that won't be there come the regular season. I know that breaking into the NFL is hard. But playing actual games is much harder.

I believe that we as fans wants the Saints to be among the elite teams in the NFL in 2017. But until they actually compete against those elite teams with the personnel and schemes designed to beat them, it's truly an unknown as to how it'll all come out.

To paraphrase another posted in another thread...
Must... Not... Get... Exicited... Yet...

SFIAH

halloween 65 · 08-21-2017, 12:43 PM

The D looked good last night. I still have concerns and want stir that kool-aid, yet. The Chargers O-line was missing both T. This game reminded me of Gregg Williams blitzing San Fran in 2011 in preseason, it looked great but when playoff time rolled around San Fran knew exactly what to look for, we all know how that turned out. Glass, spoon, water and Kool-aid is still on the shelf in my house.By game 6 we should have a very good ideal what our D has or hasn't got. I'll take the win, it's been awhile.

rezburna · 08-21-2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Fleener ... I'd really like to see more of him (besides the block of Bosa) in the offense.

We need to see if the Chagers want to give up Gates.

K Major · 08-21-2017, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

We need to see if the Chagers want to give up Gates.

I'm surprised no one has picked up Gary Barnidge yet. As for Fleener, I really hope he shows up this year in key moments.

CharityMike · 08-21-2017, 12:50 PM

Man..I don't care who they were playing..that D looked good! I will take it! It has been a good while since we seen that kinda speed from lb's in a Saints uniform. And regardless who was in the lineup from any preseason team we face, playing like the way we did, gives confidence to the players.

CharityMike · 08-21-2017, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm surprised no one has picked up Gary Barnidge yet. As for Fleener, I really hope he shows up this year in key moments.

I wondered why we didn't even bring him in when he was released. I figured it was probably because of the amount of a contract he would have wanted.

As far a Fleener goes, terrible terrible terrible. The guy is another free agent failure that we decided deserved a big contract. Can't stand the guy, he is nothing special. I will be happy when we can move from him.

WillMacKenzie · 08-21-2017, 01:03 PM

Barnidge would easily "eclipse" Fleener...

jnormand · 08-21-2017, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Barnidge would easily "eclipse" Fleener...

Booo!!! Lol

The Dude · 08-21-2017, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Settle down its a preseason game against the chargers for crying out loud. The secondary didnt look all that impressive to me more like baf qb play but i do generally do watch a different game than alot of you. We will know one way or the other after the first month if they are better

Take QBs out of the equation. It was our DEfensive line and linebackers against their offensive line, tight ends, etc and our guys dominated in the trenches. Something this defense has lacked for years. That's where games are won. If Rivers was in one could argue that maybe he could have gotten rid of the ball quicker or avoided the pressure better and maybe we would have only had 5 or 6 sacks. I'll take 6 sacks any day. I saw what I wanted to see and it is a vast improvement. It was one game and certainly don't drink the cool aid but it was a good sign to see we seemed to have improved in the very areas we needed to.
Next weeks game will be more telling. I want to see how our guys against Watt.
If they can hold their own up front on that side of the ball I'll open the pack of cool aid and pull out a glass. Not saying I'll actually turn on the faucet but I'll be thirsty.

08-21-2017, 12:28 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL A preseason game against QBs and linemen that won't be on the field unless the Chargers are really in trouble. The first quarter of the regular season will be the true test. 3 away games. 2 playoff teams from last year. And the SB champs. Come out of that 4-0 or 3-1 with dominant performances, then we can have a conversation of where the Saints fit in 2017. What I saw was encouraging. But it's the preseason. Many of the players out there will be on benches, practice squads, or in the stands come September. If this defense sacks Brady 8 times and holds the Patriots to less than 200 yards passing September 17th, then that's a defensive game worth being excited about. SFIAH SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. burningmetal likes this.

08-21-2017, 12:37 PM	#22
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. As I said, I am encouraged. But this is still all practice and evaluation, often with players on both sides of the ball that won't be there come the regular season. I know that breaking into the NFL is hard. But playing actual games is much harder. I believe that we as fans wants the Saints to be among the elite teams in the NFL in 2017. But until they actually compete against those elite teams with the personnel and schemes designed to beat them, it's truly an unknown as to how it'll all come out. To paraphrase another posted in another thread... Must... Not... Get... Exicited... Yet... SFIAH
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08-21-2017, 12:43 PM	#23
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks The D looked good last night. I still have concerns and want stir that kool-aid, yet. The Chargers O-line was missing both T. This game reminded me of Gregg Williams blitzing San Fran in 2011 in preseason, it looked great but when playoff time rolled around San Fran knew exactly what to look for, we all know how that turned out. Glass, spoon, water and Kool-aid is still on the shelf in my house.By game 6 we should have a very good ideal what our D has or hasn't got. I'll take the win, it's been awhile.

08-21-2017, 12:44 PM	#24
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major Fleener ... I'd really like to see more of him (besides the block of Bosa) in the offense. We need to see if the Chagers want to give up Gates. K Major likes this.

08-21-2017, 12:46 PM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by rezburna We need to see if the Chagers want to give up Gates. I'm surprised no one has picked up Gary Barnidge yet. As for Fleener, I really hope he shows up this year in key moments.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Man..I don't care who they were playing..that D looked good! I will take it! It has been a good while since we seen that kinda speed from lb's in a Saints uniform. And regardless who was in the lineup from any preseason team we face, playing like the way we did, gives confidence to the players. jnormand, SmashMouth, BusDriver and 1 others like this.

08-21-2017, 12:59 PM	#27
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major I'm surprised no one has picked up Gary Barnidge yet. As for Fleener, I really hope he shows up this year in key moments. I wondered why we didn't even bring him in when he was released. I figured it was probably because of the amount of a contract he would have wanted. As far a Fleener goes, terrible terrible terrible. The guy is another free agent failure that we decided deserved a big contract. Can't stand the guy, he is nothing special. I will be happy when we can move from him.

08-21-2017, 01:03 PM	#28
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Barnidge would easily "eclipse" Fleener... SmashMouth likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by saintshrimp Settle down its a preseason game against the chargers for crying out loud. The secondary didnt look all that impressive to me more like baf qb play but i do generally do watch a different game than alot of you. We will know one way or the other after the first month if they are better Take QBs out of the equation. It was our DEfensive line and linebackers against their offensive line, tight ends, etc and our guys dominated in the trenches. Something this defense has lacked for years. That's where games are won. If Rivers was in one could argue that maybe he could have gotten rid of the ball quicker or avoided the pressure better and maybe we would have only had 5 or 6 sacks. I'll take 6 sacks any day. I saw what I wanted to see and it is a vast improvement. It was one game and certainly don't drink the cool aid but it was a good sign to see we seemed to have improved in the very areas we needed to. Next weeks game will be more telling. I want to see how our guys against Watt. If they can hold their own up front on that side of the ball I'll open the pack of cool aid and pull out a glass. Not saying I'll actually turn on the faucet but I'll be thirsty.
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