92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks

dam1953 · 08-21-2017, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Take QBs out of the equation. It was our DEfensive line and linebackers against their offensive line, tight ends, etc and our guys dominated in the trenches. Something this defense has lacked for years. That's where games are won. If Rivers was in one could argue that maybe he could have gotten rid of the ball quicker or avoided the pressure better and maybe we would have only had 5 or 6 sacks. I'll take 6 sacks any day. I saw what I wanted to see and it is a vast improvement. It was one game and certainly don't drink the cool aid but it was a good sign to see we seemed to have improved in the very areas we needed to.
Next weeks game will be more telling. I want to see how our guys against Watt.
If they can hold their own up front on that side of the ball I'll open the pack of cool aid and pull out a glass. Not saying I'll actually turn on the faucet but I'll be thirsty.

Maybe, just maybe the QB's were holding on to the ball longer because THE RECEIVERS WERE COVERED....for a change.

The Dude · 08-21-2017, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Maybe, just maybe the QB's were holding on to the ball longer because THE RECEIVERS WERE COVERED....for a change.

I only got to listen to the first half and couldn't get a good assessment of players in the secondary because they were focusing on the line so much. I'm not discrediting them but it's obvious the line did their job. I was able to watch the second half and Swann has to go.

CharityMike · 08-21-2017, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I only got to listen to the first half and couldn't get a good assessment of players in the secondary because they were focusing on the line so much. I'm not discrediting them but it's obvious the line did their job. I was able to watch the second half and Swann has to go.

Don't worry, Swann has zero chance of not being cut. He just looks terrible.

PJ Williams on the other hand...man o man. That boy gonna be gud. I am excited for him. He tackles well and hits like a truck. I like em!!

K Major · 08-21-2017, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Tommy Lee Lewis with an outstanding sideline grab.

On that pick 6 that Nassib threw ... after falling to the ground, TLL was the last person to get back up, chase down the defender from a full 95 yard sprint (almost got there). All hustle, never give up attitude.

The little things that coaches will see on tape. TLL is a gamer. I think his roster spot is secure.

burningmetal · 08-21-2017, 07:44 PM

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burningmetal · 08-21-2017, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

SFIAH,

It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense.

Nothing is easy at this level.

Agreed. I hate the preseason and talk as much crap about it as anyone. I can't stand that they make these teams play 4 games when all of the work that needs to be done is covered in practice and scrimmages. But with that said, preseason is where most of us fans get our only looks at the team before the real season begins, and I think we're all educated enough to recognize talent, and improvement, without jumping to too many conclusions.

The games are meaningless, but the individual performances matter, regardless of competition. All opinions have to be adjusted relative to the context of preseason and I, like you, see no reason to wait till September 17th to decide that there might be reason for optimism. Or pessimism, for that matter. I just happen to be optimistic, based on what I've seen.

hagan714 · 08-21-2017, 08:44 PM

great showing against one of the worse OL in the NFL and a team that might have worse QB depth than we do, well maybe not.

jeanpierre · 08-21-2017, 10:35 PM

Okay, just got through "re-watching" the game without the surprises factor from last night...

And it still jumps out to me the way the defense and special teams just swarmed to the ball...

Yes we used our best LBer (Klein) to down a kick in coverage, but if that's what it takes to set the standard for that unit - make it so...

Seer1 · 08-21-2017, 10:54 PM

Can't wait until Wednesday when I can finally watch it!

saintfan · 08-21-2017, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, just got through "re-watching" the game without the surprises factor from last night...

And it still jumps out to me the way the defense and special teams just swarmed to the ball...

Yes we used our best LBer (Klein) to down a kick in coverage, but if that's what it takes to set the standard for that unit - make it so...

I watched again today because I was in and out during the game. I was in and out again today, so I'll watch again Wednesday, but I felt the same - wanted to check to see if I was just a little too giddy.

I know it was the Chargers, but like I said in another thread, jeesh our defense looked like a real defense...for a change...wouldn't have mattered to me if we were playing the NSU Demons, I just enjoyed watching us play with a purpose!

08-21-2017, 03:15 PM	#31
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by The Dude Take QBs out of the equation. It was our DEfensive line and linebackers against their offensive line, tight ends, etc and our guys dominated in the trenches. Something this defense has lacked for years. That's where games are won. If Rivers was in one could argue that maybe he could have gotten rid of the ball quicker or avoided the pressure better and maybe we would have only had 5 or 6 sacks. I'll take 6 sacks any day. I saw what I wanted to see and it is a vast improvement. It was one game and certainly don't drink the cool aid but it was a good sign to see we seemed to have improved in the very areas we needed to. Next weeks game will be more telling. I want to see how our guys against Watt. If they can hold their own up front on that side of the ball I'll open the pack of cool aid and pull out a glass. Not saying I'll actually turn on the faucet but I'll be thirsty. Maybe, just maybe the QB's were holding on to the ball longer because THE RECEIVERS WERE COVERED....for a change. jnormand, Barry from MS and CharityMike like this.

08-21-2017, 04:40 PM	#32
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by dam1953 Maybe, just maybe the QB's were holding on to the ball longer because THE RECEIVERS WERE COVERED....for a change. I only got to listen to the first half and couldn't get a good assessment of players in the secondary because they were focusing on the line so much. I'm not discrediting them but it's obvious the line did their job. I was able to watch the second half and Swann has to go. CharityMike likes this.
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08-21-2017, 05:18 PM	#33
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by The Dude I only got to listen to the first half and couldn't get a good assessment of players in the secondary because they were focusing on the line so much. I'm not discrediting them but it's obvious the line did their job. I was able to watch the second half and Swann has to go. Don't worry, Swann has zero chance of not being cut. He just looks terrible. PJ Williams on the other hand...man o man. That boy gonna be gud. I am excited for him. He tackles well and hits like a truck. I like em!! K Major likes this.

08-21-2017, 05:53 PM	#34
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by dizzle88 Tommy Lee Lewis with an outstanding sideline grab. On that pick 6 that Nassib threw ... after falling to the ground, TLL was the last person to get back up, chase down the defender from a full 95 yard sprint (almost got there). All hustle, never give up attitude. The little things that coaches will see on tape. TLL is a gamer. I think his roster spot is secure. dizzle88 likes this.

08-21-2017, 07:44 PM	#35
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08-21-2017, 07:45 PM	#36
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by K Major SFIAH, It's all about changing the mindset and culture of this very young defensive team. Pre season or not, winning starts somewhere. I'm encouraged to see where this team was this time last year to now. No need to wait until Sept 17th before getting excited about this defense. Nothing is easy at this level. Agreed. I hate the preseason and talk as much crap about it as anyone. I can't stand that they make these teams play 4 games when all of the work that needs to be done is covered in practice and scrimmages. But with that said, preseason is where most of us fans get our only looks at the team before the real season begins, and I think we're all educated enough to recognize talent, and improvement, without jumping to too many conclusions. The games are meaningless, but the individual performances matter, regardless of competition. All opinions have to be adjusted relative to the context of preseason and I, like you, see no reason to wait till September 17th to decide that there might be reason for optimism. Or pessimism, for that matter. I just happen to be optimistic, based on what I've seen.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

08-21-2017, 08:44 PM	#37
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks great showing against one of the worse OL in the NFL and a team that might have worse QB depth than we do, well maybe not. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

08-21-2017, 10:35 PM	#38
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Okay, just got through "re-watching" the game without the surprises factor from last night... And it still jumps out to me the way the defense and special teams just swarmed to the ball... Yes we used our best LBer (Klein) to down a kick in coverage, but if that's what it takes to set the standard for that unit - make it so... SmashMouth likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Can't wait until Wednesday when I can finally watch it!

08-21-2017, 11:56 PM	#40
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 92 Passing Yards Allowed and 8 Sacks Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, just got through "re-watching" the game without the surprises factor from last night... And it still jumps out to me the way the defense and special teams just swarmed to the ball... Yes we used our best LBer (Klein) to down a kick in coverage, but if that's what it takes to set the standard for that unit - make it so... I watched again today because I was in and out during the game. I was in and out again today, so I'll watch again Wednesday, but I felt the same - wanted to check to see if I was just a little too giddy. I know it was the Chargers, but like I said in another thread, jeesh our defense looked like a real defense...for a change...wouldn't have mattered to me if we were playing the NSU Demons, I just enjoyed watching us play with a purpose! SmashMouth, jeanpierre and CharityMike like this.

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