What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

jeanpierre · 10-29-2017, 07:17 PM

And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods...

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Lord_Saint83 · 10-29-2017, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=jeanpierre;773035]And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods...

I agree JP, i liked what i saw from him at the combine and florida atlantic highlights. Kid looks like he will be really solid with more playing time.

K Major · 10-29-2017, 07:49 PM

FWIW, Trey Hendrickson combine numbers were equivalent to Myles Garrett. The talent is there.

jeanpierre · 10-29-2017, 09:21 PM

Another observation from today's victory, our kicking coverage looked like it has bounced back and gotten on track...

No. 34 Justin Hardee, a convert from RB to CB in progress, has really become an asset on the kick coverage units...

And that incredible punt by Morstead still has me just going WoW right now...

The Dude · 10-29-2017, 10:16 PM

"The Saints matched the Bears in the trenches"

This. This right here shows me our guys up front are real. We played classic football today and didn't get manhandled. We HAVE to learn to stop the run. I think adjustments can be made.
Also liked how they got Hill the ball. No graham but he's better than Fleener.

jnormand · 10-29-2017, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

"The Saints matched the Bears in the trenches"

This. This right here shows me our guys up front are real. We played classic football today and didn't get manhandled. We HAVE to learn to stop the run. I think adjustments can be made.
Also liked how they got Hill the ball. No graham but he's better than Fleener.

Hill is a killer blocker too. He's a big boy.

jeanpierre · 10-30-2017, 12:27 AM

Coleman had a nice reception up the sideline, that is, until he forgot how to run and lost his balance...

hagan714 · 10-30-2017, 04:49 AM

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

ChrisXVI · 10-30-2017, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

lee909 · 10-30-2017, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

Originally Posted by lee909

Only seen little bits but looked likey they held the line ok baring a couple of broken big gains.

Agree though a true dominate run stuffing DT would be a great additions

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

On this and my pointbthat the D line help up pretty well.

Take away the 2 big runs *Trubisky/Howard 96 yards.

29 carries 61 yards.

Jordan Howard 22 for 52

Need to stop the big plays.

Same in the air. McBride got loose 3 for 93 but half in one play.

Overall this group is definitely on the way up.

Biggest questions for me in defense

Does Vaccaro get paid
Big run stuffing DT
Re-sign Okafor
Fairley contract

Offense
Willie Snead deal?
New number 2 WR
Fleener cut
Ingram (cap casualty?)

10-29-2017, 07:17 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods... Twitter Barry from MS, SmashMouth, K Major and 1 others like this.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago [QUOTE=jeanpierre;773035]And I know one other thing - Trey Hendrickson needs more snaps on passing downs - he's the goods... I agree JP, i liked what i saw from him at the combine and florida atlantic highlights. Kid looks like he will be really solid with more playing time. K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago FWIW, Trey Hendrickson combine numbers were equivalent to Myles Garrett. The talent is there. jeanpierre and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Another observation from today's victory, our kicking coverage looked like it has bounced back and gotten on track... No. 34 Justin Hardee, a convert from RB to CB in progress, has really become an asset on the kick coverage units... And that incredible punt by Morstead still has me just going WoW right now...

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago "The Saints matched the Bears in the trenches" This. This right here shows me our guys up front are real. We played classic football today and didn't get manhandled. We HAVE to learn to stop the run. I think adjustments can be made. Also liked how they got Hill the ball. No graham but he's better than Fleener.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,769	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by The Dude "The Saints matched the Bears in the trenches" This. This right here shows me our guys up front are real. We played classic football today and didn't get manhandled. We HAVE to learn to stop the run. I think adjustments can be made. Also liked how they got Hill the ball. No graham but he's better than Fleener. Hill is a killer blocker too. He's a big boy.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Coleman had a nice reception up the sideline, that is, until he forgot how to run and lost his balance... jnormand likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. Barry from MS and jeanpierre like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by hagan714 No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... hagan714 and Thirty3 like this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by hagan714 No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. Originally Posted by lee909 Only seen little bits but looked likey they held the line ok baring a couple of broken big gains. Agree though a true dominate run stuffing DT would be a great additions Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... On this and my pointbthat the D line help up pretty well. Take away the 2 big runs *Trubisky/Howard 96 yards. 29 carries 61 yards. Jordan Howard 22 for 52 Need to stop the big plays. Same in the air. McBride got loose 3 for 93 but half in one play. Overall this group is definitely on the way up. Biggest questions for me in defense Does Vaccaro get paid Big run stuffing DT Re-sign Okafor Fairley contract Offense Willie Snead deal? New number 2 WR Fleener cut Ingram (cap casualty?)

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