Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay

MarchingOn · 09-09-2018, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Zero pressure. Surprisingly our run D wasn’t too bad. We got killed by the big play through the air.

Yes, we were killed by the pass but our run defense was still bad. Look at the average per play by their RB. Look at our LBs not making tackles or doing it well down the field. Same as the last couple years.

CharityMike · 09-09-2018, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure

Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

jnormand · 09-09-2018, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year.

frydaddy · 09-09-2018, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year.

Yep. As of this year you aren't allowed to come down with your full weight on the QB. You have to roll off to the side of them as you come down. Against bigger QB's this is going to really suck. I expect a lot more missed sacks as a result.

Rsanders24 · 09-10-2018, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Yep. As of this year you aren't allowed to come down with your full weight on the QB. You have to roll off to the side of them as you come down. Against bigger QB's this is going to really suck. I expect a lot more missed sacks as a result.

I call it the Aaron Rodgers Rule...and it’s going to suck because the QBs that fight for every yard and are elusive will break out of a lot of sacks because defensive players will be scared they are going to get a flag...

CharityMike · 09-09-2018, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year.

Absolutely correct but this yr it is way different. And until these fools (not just our team) get it through there thick heads, we are gonna see a lot of penalties like this. Driving the QB to the ground like he did Fitz, is so uncalled for. You don't have to body slam them, ESPECIALLY after he has already thrown the ball. This is not rocket science.

MarchingOn · 09-09-2018, 08:34 PM

Should cut Gillislee.

We have/had two RBs who played better in Jonathan Williams and Scott so use them AND send a message about fumbling

saintfan · 09-09-2018, 08:51 PM

You can't just sack 'em, you have to sack 'em properly...

/sarcasm...

MarchingOn · 09-09-2018, 08:53 PM

I hope we learned that Robertson should start...again

K Major · 09-09-2018, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

I hope we learned that Robertson should start...again

Kind of puzzling on Craig. He couldn't have played any worse than Klein or Anzalone today.

Side note - I think as Demario Davis plays more, he'll get better. He did make a few plays today. As many posters have already stated, it makes very little sense to sign a guy, then move him from the position they were successful at. That's on our coaches.

09-09-2018, 08:51 PM	#1
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by The Dude Zero pressure. Surprisingly our run D wasn’t too bad. We got killed by the big play through the air. Yes, we were killed by the pass but our run defense was still bad. Look at the average per play by their RB. Look at our LBs not making tackles or doing it well down the field. Same as the last couple years.

09-09-2018, 08:10 PM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

09-09-2018, 08:42 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by CharityMike Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground. Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year. SmashMouth and Rell&Gold like this.

09-09-2018, 08:49 PM	#4
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,953 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jnormand Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year. Yep. As of this year you aren't allowed to come down with your full weight on the QB. You have to roll off to the side of them as you come down. Against bigger QB's this is going to really suck. I expect a lot more missed sacks as a result. Rell&Gold likes this.

09-10-2018, 06:23 AM	#5
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by frydaddy Yep. As of this year you aren't allowed to come down with your full weight on the QB. You have to roll off to the side of them as you come down. Against bigger QB's this is going to really suck. I expect a lot more missed sacks as a result. I call it the Aaron Rodgers Rule...and it’s going to suck because the QBs that fight for every yard and are elusive will break out of a lot of sacks because defensive players will be scared they are going to get a flag...

09-09-2018, 11:10 PM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jnormand Dude I watched that play. It's ridiculous. That hit was clean last year. Absolutely correct but this yr it is way different. And until these fools (not just our team) get it through there thick heads, we are gonna see a lot of penalties like this. Driving the QB to the ground like he did Fitz, is so uncalled for. You don't have to body slam them, ESPECIALLY after he has already thrown the ball. This is not rocket science.

09-09-2018, 08:34 PM	#7
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Should cut Gillislee. We have/had two RBs who played better in Jonathan Williams and Scott so use them AND send a message about fumbling CharityMike likes this.

09-09-2018, 08:51 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay You can't just sack 'em, you have to sack 'em properly... /sarcasm... MarchingOn likes this.

09-09-2018, 08:53 PM	#9
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay I hope we learned that Robertson should start...again Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

09-09-2018, 09:26 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by MarchingOn I hope we learned that Robertson should start...again Kind of puzzling on Craig. He couldn't have played any worse than Klein or Anzalone today. Side note - I think as Demario Davis plays more, he'll get better. He did make a few plays today. As many posters have already stated, it makes very little sense to sign a guy, then move him from the position they were successful at. That's on our coaches. CharityMike and Rell&Gold like this.

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