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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; If I don’t like trees in my yard does that make me treeist? I don’t have a dislike for trees I just don’t like them in my yard. Sexism and racism have to do with your feelings and preconceived notions ...
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09-12-2018, 09:43 AM | #41 |
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If I don’t like trees in my yard does that make me treeist? I don’t have a dislike for trees I just don’t like them in my yard.
Sexism and racism have to do with your feelings and preconceived notions of the group as a whole. Not the individual or individual circumstance. |
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09-12-2018, 09:44 AM | #42 |
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This shows nothing. The job you choose, the years in that field, the hours worked all matter. Taking a broad study that does not take these into account proves nothing more than what we already know, women choose lower paying fields and generally spend less years in the workforce. What's your point they're being compensated appropriately for their choices. If so, yes you're right
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09-12-2018, 09:45 AM | #43 |
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09-12-2018, 09:56 AM | #45 |
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09-12-2018, 10:07 AM | #46 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
There's nothing more scientific than showing how much money people make, without giving so much as an ounce of context. This point has been made numerous times now.
It is well known by anyone who has bothered to do an in depth study of this so-called "wage gap", that a majority of women set their work schedule to accommodate family life. In general, the man is either the sole provider, or the main provider. So women aren't working as many hours and, as a result, they aren't advancing to a level that would pay them equal to men. There is no evidence of any systematic prejudice toward women who are working the same positions and same amount of hours as men, in any given field. I could show you a chart showing how much more money people age 30 to 65 are making, as opposed to those ages, say, 16 to 29 are making. And it would show a FAR greater disparity than what we see with women vs. men. But there is a clear reason for that. Experience. With women, it's the same thing. They live a different lifestyle, on average, that affords them less time to work and, therefore, less experience. But they work more often than teenagers do, and so they still make more money than that crowd. It's really not that difficult to understand, if one is willing to take their "injustice" glasses off and actually work TOWARD a conclusion, instead of starting with one. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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09-12-2018, 10:17 AM | #47 |
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Originally Posted by foreverfan
I find it very interesting that for centuries, biologist have been classifying organisms based upon physical characteristics. Recently, with advances in genetics, the classification process is now based upon genetic "finger prints". When trace quantities of DNA can be found, this technique is even being used to identify/classify fossils. One field of science is used to advance another field of science. That's the way it's supposed to work.
Unfortunately, when it comes to humans, science only applies when it is convenient. A person's sex (aka gender) is based upon a wish, regardless of what the DNA says. Today I'm a man, tomorrow I'm a woman. Next week I'm going to learn to swim. So, I'm a fish? Barbarino was right.. |
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09-12-2018, 10:20 AM | #48 |
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The number one cost of all businesses is their employees. Any business that could slash cost by 20% overnight by simply hiring all women would. They wouldn't think twice.
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09-12-2018, 10:22 AM | #49 |
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Ignore the facts. Fine. There is clearly pay gap. Employers for the most part are driven by the bottom line. Given all other factors the average employer would hire the employee willing to work for less. This is a major factor of the very real pay gap. The demographics willing to working for less are unfortunately both women and minorities. And why are they willing to work for less? Because that is the best avenue for getting and sustaining employment. It is a Catch 22 that has taken half a century to improve and most likely another half century to be eliminated. Other factors, although, do include varying degrees of discrimination.
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09-12-2018, 10:25 AM | #50 |
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Originally Posted by spkb25
Exactly! You just supported my post. This is a major factor in the VERY REAL pay gap between men and women. I thought you said it was a lie.
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