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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak Poll a thousand males and a thousand females and ask them.. Given a conflict between family/Home responsibility’s and career which one do you gravitate to? You’ll find that females have a much higher propensity to focus ...
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I'll just note the lack of supporting research for the conclusions drawn here.
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Re: I’m not sexist
Originally Posted by TheOak
Questions? What the ‘f’ happened to Jane? And who is Judy? Is she the trolip that Dick is doing while Jane works all those years?
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What is strange to me is the fact that married men would actually benefit from collaborating with women to close the pay gap. And, yet, here in this forum, far from that kind of mutually beneficial collaboration, most of the men here deny the existence of a pay gap.
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09-12-2018, 03:41 PM | #75 |
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This is so true. Being married with a working wife why would you not want work to help close the gap instead of denying it exists. The caveat being that those arguing that there is no gap may either be unmarried or married to women that either do not work or do not work full-time. In these cases a pay gap doesn't seem to exist in their eyes.
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09-12-2018, 04:09 PM | #76 |
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA
FACT - Worked for an HMO/PPO/TPA for five years...
To the ininitiated, it's a womens' world except for one or two roosters in the management circle; a daily grind of territorial cat-fights among rivals dept heads; unnecessary waste of energy that delays accurate claims and benefits resolution ... Anyways, same job title, description, grade; was consistently 15% less in base pay, incentives than my friends, co-workers, even though I had a better attendance record, outworked most in measurable production reports... And when a disgruntled member showed up to berate someone - guess who was sent to the first floor to take the arse-chewing for someone else careless data entry??? In our department, over 200 associates, about twenty men with all in the same compensation disposition; this included two with seniority over all associates on two floors... Now, self-employed. Want a job? I make an offer and take it or someone else will; it's what I'm willing to pay. Have never forced anyone to take the job I offer... So, I've seen both sides of it... Ultimately, here's the slippery slope when you start legislating anything of this kind, what I like to call legislating behaviour... It's another bolt in the quiver for corrupt big-gov bureaucrats to harass folks that have different politics, neighborhood - regulations are never enforced evenly... Now, some believe it is solely based on race or religion or sex when, in truth, all those are happen-stance to the real discriminator - economic status... That is why majority of white males call BS on the other discriminators because most white males also face an equally up-hill challenge when starting out financially... And resent when other "disenfranchised sub-groups" are "made whole" through affirmative action while they are left to play from behind even further... Want to be enlightened and really get to the truth? Read Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance - the most honest picture of what's really happening in this country... |
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09-12-2018, 04:18 PM | #77 |
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LOL. Worked for a hospital owned HMO for 17.5 years and can agree with much of what you say. And I also agree that legislative solutions to the gap (that for some reason some deny) can become a slippery slope. And that is why it is estimated that it may take another 40-50 years for the scale to balance.
And I was waiting for your input as I knew you are an employer. You have confirmed that willingness to work for a given pay is a major factor in hiring (I am assuming all other factors being equal besides gender, right). It is going to take education on both sides of the fence and, yes, maybe degree of nudging legislation that isn't too over the top. |
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09-12-2018, 05:37 PM | #78 |
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Nice try bro, but there is no stopping this thread now. But I appreciate your attempt at the humor, I bet none of the people here arguing about this, even saw it.
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