CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We?

The Dude · 10-22-2018, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Von Bell didn’t look too good yesterday either. Two of those TD’s were on his watch. It’s imperative we make a move.

Yep. What exactly was his mistake on that last TD? Did he think a CB was going to get there? There was nobody else close. Was someone supposed to be there or was Bell just putting it off on someone else? I don’t know much about about coverage and assignments.

rezburna · 10-22-2018, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yep. What exactly was his mistake on that last TD? Did he think a CB was going to get there? There was nobody else close. Was someone supposed to be there or was Bell just putting it off on someone else? I don’t know much about about coverage and assignments.

It was Cover 2. Lattimore could have drifted back a little more if there was no imminent threat to his zone, but Bell should have been over the top regardless. He was late. He got caught looking in the backfield.

gumbeau · 10-22-2018, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It was Cover 2. Lattimore could have drifted back a little more if there was no imminent threat to his zone, but Bell should have been over the top regardless. He was late. He got caught looking in the backfield.

If the Saints coaching staff is expecting a safety in Cover 2 to travel 21 yards against a WR that is only 15 yards from the goal line, comes off the line untouched and allowed outside then our coaching staff is not even remotely competent.

It is impossible for Bell to travel in a straight line to where Brown scored before Brown gets there unless Lattimore stands him up before releasing him or directs him inside.

So either Bell was lined up over the tight end in error, the coaches are idiots or Lattimore made an error.

Both safeties lined up over the slot receivers. On the opposite side of the field the corner carried his receiver to the five and gave up the flat.

Lattimore released Brown at full speed at the ten. Bell has already moved 5 yards towards that sideline but he is still 15 yards away from the pylon.

Bell would have to sprint from his position at the snap to have any hope of meeting Brown at the pylon.

Blaming it on a late recognition or reaction is stupid. Usain Bolt would have struggled to get there in time out the blocks.

rezburna · 10-22-2018, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

If the Saints coaching staff is expecting a safety in Cover 2 to travel 21 yards against a WR that is only 15 yards from the goal line, comes off the line untouched and allowed outside then our coaching staff is not even remotely competent.

It is impossible for Bell to travel in a straight line to where Brown scored before Brown gets there unless Lattimore stands him up before releasing him or directs him inside.

So either Bell was lined up over the tight end in error, the coaches are idiots or Lattimore made an error.

Both safeties lined up over the slot receivers. On the opposite side of the field the corner carried his receiver to the five and gave up the flat.

Lattimore released Brown at full speed at the ten. Bell has already moved 5 yards towards that sideline but he is still 15 yards away from the pylon.

Bell would have to sprint from his position at the snap to have any hope of meeting Brown at the pylon.

Blaming it on a late recognition or reaction is stupid. Usain Bolt would have struggled to get there in time out the blocks.

It's his zone bro. It just is what it is. Sometimes you can exploit that area of the zone, but Bell should have already been drifting over that way to prevent it. There was no reason for him to be sitting. Nothing was threatening the hash marks. He did the same thing when the tight end scored...trying to watch the backfield.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2185735/Cover2.png

spkb25 · 10-22-2018, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Von Bell didn’t look too good yesterday either. Two of those TD’s were on his watch. It’s imperative we make a move.

Let me ask you Rez, what's your opinion of Bell? I've never been impressed with his coverage skills

rezburna · 10-22-2018, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Let me ask you Rez, what's your opinion of Bell? I've never been impressed with his coverage skills

He was playing well up until the Baltimore game. He’s a serviceable, yet, replaceable player. If I had to give him a Madden rating it would be like a 73. He’s the main reason I kept begging for Eric Reid.

dizzle88 · 10-22-2018, 11:06 AM

Vaccaro was better than Bell.

rezburna · 10-22-2018, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Vaccaro was better than Bell.

I can’t really disagree with that.

turbo_dog · 10-22-2018, 12:10 PM

What ever happened to Delvin Breaux?

dizzle88 · 10-22-2018, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

What ever happened to Delvin Breaux?

Saints doctors misdiagnosed him, instead of showing him loyalty we just kicked him to the curb and he went back to the CFL.

10-22-2018, 09:22 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by rezburna Von Bell didn’t look too good yesterday either. Two of those TD’s were on his watch. It’s imperative we make a move. Yep. What exactly was his mistake on that last TD? Did he think a CB was going to get there? There was nobody else close. Was someone supposed to be there or was Bell just putting it off on someone else? I don’t know much about about coverage and assignments.
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10-22-2018, 09:31 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by The Dude Yep. What exactly was his mistake on that last TD? Did he think a CB was going to get there? There was nobody else close. Was someone supposed to be there or was Bell just putting it off on someone else? I don’t know much about about coverage and assignments. It was Cover 2. Lattimore could have drifted back a little more if there was no imminent threat to his zone, but Bell should have been over the top regardless. He was late. He got caught looking in the backfield. ChrisXVI and dam1953 like this.

10-22-2018, 12:25 PM	#3
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by rezburna It was Cover 2. Lattimore could have drifted back a little more if there was no imminent threat to his zone, but Bell should have been over the top regardless. He was late. He got caught looking in the backfield. If the Saints coaching staff is expecting a safety in Cover 2 to travel 21 yards against a WR that is only 15 yards from the goal line, comes off the line untouched and allowed outside then our coaching staff is not even remotely competent. It is impossible for Bell to travel in a straight line to where Brown scored before Brown gets there unless Lattimore stands him up before releasing him or directs him inside. So either Bell was lined up over the tight end in error, the coaches are idiots or Lattimore made an error. Both safeties lined up over the slot receivers. On the opposite side of the field the corner carried his receiver to the five and gave up the flat. Lattimore released Brown at full speed at the ten. Bell has already moved 5 yards towards that sideline but he is still 15 yards away from the pylon. Bell would have to sprint from his position at the snap to have any hope of meeting Brown at the pylon. Blaming it on a late recognition or reaction is stupid. Usain Bolt would have struggled to get there in time out the blocks.

10-22-2018, 12:35 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by gumbeau If the Saints coaching staff is expecting a safety in Cover 2 to travel 21 yards against a WR that is only 15 yards from the goal line, comes off the line untouched and allowed outside then our coaching staff is not even remotely competent. It is impossible for Bell to travel in a straight line to where Brown scored before Brown gets there unless Lattimore stands him up before releasing him or directs him inside. So either Bell was lined up over the tight end in error, the coaches are idiots or Lattimore made an error. Both safeties lined up over the slot receivers. On the opposite side of the field the corner carried his receiver to the five and gave up the flat. Lattimore released Brown at full speed at the ten. Bell has already moved 5 yards towards that sideline but he is still 15 yards away from the pylon. Bell would have to sprint from his position at the snap to have any hope of meeting Brown at the pylon. Blaming it on a late recognition or reaction is stupid. Usain Bolt would have struggled to get there in time out the blocks. It's his zone bro. It just is what it is. Sometimes you can exploit that area of the zone, but Bell should have already been drifting over that way to prevent it. There was no reason for him to be sitting. Nothing was threatening the hash marks. He did the same thing when the tight end scored...trying to watch the backfield. http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2185735/Cover2.png

10-22-2018, 10:20 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by rezburna Von Bell didn’t look too good yesterday either. Two of those TD’s were on his watch. It’s imperative we make a move. Let me ask you Rez, what's your opinion of Bell? I've never been impressed with his coverage skills

10-22-2018, 11:05 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by spkb25 Let me ask you Rez, what's your opinion of Bell? I've never been impressed with his coverage skills He was playing well up until the Baltimore game. He’s a serviceable, yet, replaceable player. If I had to give him a Madden rating it would be like a 73. He’s the main reason I kept begging for Eric Reid.

10-22-2018, 11:06 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Vaccaro was better than Bell.

10-22-2018, 12:11 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,097	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Vaccaro was better than Bell. I can’t really disagree with that.

10-22-2018, 12:10 PM	#9
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,701	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? What ever happened to Delvin Breaux?

10-22-2018, 12:26 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We? Originally Posted by turbo_dog What ever happened to Delvin Breaux? Saints doctors misdiagnosed him, instead of showing him loyalty we just kicked him to the curb and he went back to the CFL.