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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by 44Champs This was a tired Saints team. 3 games in 12 days. That's a lot. Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk Only problem with that reason is the cowgirls played the same amount of games in that ...

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Old 12-03-2018, 01:27 PM   #71
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Re: Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games

Originally Posted by 44Champs View Post
This was a tired Saints team. 3 games in 12 days. That's a lot.

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Only problem with that reason is the cowgirls played the same amount of games in that span
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:49 PM   #72
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Re: Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games

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Only problem with that reason is the cowgirls played the same amount of games in that span

Actually, no, he's right, because if both teams are tired, it still favors the defense. I'm not making any excuses here, I'm just explaining the science of it.

Think of it as, the difference between hitting and getting hit...hitting always is easier to do than being the one getting hit. If you are the defense, reacting to the other guy, or to the ball, and the other guy is just as tired as you are, it is always going to be easier for you, if YOU are the one reacting rather than having to be the one acting. It's just the nature of the game. The Saints offense relies on spit-second timing and finesse as well as power; if any of that timing gets thrown off even by a few fractions of the second, or by poor concentration, it can spell trouble. Which is exactly what happened, especially in the first half. But even though there is a lot of brain work and schemes involved in defense, the defense is basically still just the art of motoring to the quarterback, or trucking the guy with the ball before he trucks you, or wrapping up tackles or deflecting passes...all these things are easier to REACT to, than they are to be the one ACTING, if that makes any sense. A sharp cut or a turn on a pass route, is a lot easier to react to, if the other guy is running slower than usual, isn't it? Even if you're the DB and you're also running slower, the reaction times are closer., so that gives you an edge if you are playing a tired defense against a tired offense. Does that make sense? I'm trying to explain it.... the Cowboys were MUCH more physical in that game than the Saints, to their credit, I'll give them that; but it's a lot easier to be a power/physical team, if the other team you're playing against is flat or tired, or not moving at 100% speed. If both teams are tired, it still ends up favoring the defense. it's basically the same reason as bad weather or extreme field conditions, mud or sloppy grass, will favor the defense over the offense, every time.

Also the Cowboys offense did not look *that* good, either. They were held to only 13 points. Their offense looked flat and listless in places, as well. If the Cowboys had truly dominated the Saints, they would have translated that into more points, but they actually gave up a high number of sacks and turnovers as well. It really was not a good looking game for either team.
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Re: Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games

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Only problem with that reason is the cowgirls played the same amount of games in that span
True but it's not like they torched us, both defenses dominated, we just had slightly less grabby Cornerbacks than they did.
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Re: Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games

In conclusion on the Cow/Saints game ...

We lost in the trenches. That 10 game win streak we had .. we dominated opponents on the O line.

Pray Armstead is close to returning & Ramz is ok.
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Re: Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker View Post
Only problem with that reason is the cowgirls played the same amount of games in that span
But their 3rd game was at home.

Unger mentioned they felt tired and sluggish.
It was obvious we looked slower than usual.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:32 PM   #76
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It’s just that Payton didn’t try and change the game plan on the go seems like as he’d done in the past I don’t no I’m still puzzled Brees rolling out once or twice would have backed the dogs down just to get our offense back on its feet we did nothing ? On to the yucs
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:38 PM   #77
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Good pressure on Dak. A team that gets 7 sacks should win the game.

Bottled up Zeke for most of the day. 3.3yd/rush is pedestrian for him.

Shoddy tackling when Dak ran. He should have been stopped for a short gain every rush.

Coverage wasn't where it should have considering we had good pressure today.


O-line had their worst game in a very long time. A lot of pressure given up.

Brees just looked off the whole game.

Seems like we had a lot of drops today from guys who usually catches the ball well.

#54 in Dallas had multiple plays where he led with the crown. He should have been ejected from the game.

Play calling on O felt predictable. And the gamble to go for it on 4th in the first came back to haunt us.
Play calling sucked donkey balls. Plus no intensity. They got hit in the mouth and reacted like Scott Farkus
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Play calling sucked donkey balls. Plus no intensity. They got hit in the mouth and reacted like Scott Farkus
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