Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Sean Payton has openly said that the Saints intended to draft DT Danny Shelton back in the 2015 draft but he was snatched up one pick before us. I wonder if we get him this time ...

Like Tree478Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-23-2019, 07:03 PM   #1
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
Sean Payton has openly said that the Saints intended to draft DT Danny Shelton back in the 2015 draft but he was snatched up one pick before us. I wonder if we get him this time around and let Tyeler Davison walk?
Realistically, do we have the cap room? McCoy was rumoured to be interested in a one-year win with Drew now deal - who's also got to be paid'; This is another whole level of compensation...

We still have @CantGuardMike's extension coming up. And we still need help on the offensive line, tight end, defensive line, underneath wide receiver, and running back...
jnormand likes this.
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2019, 07:49 PM   #2
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 11,482
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Realistically, do we have the cap room? McCoy was rumoured to be interested in a one-year win with Drew now deal - who's also got to be paid'; This is another whole level of compensation...

We still have @CantGuardMike's extension coming up. And we still need help on the offensive line, tight end, defensive line, underneath wide receiver, and running back...
NT contracts are kind of hard to gauge. Last year we saw Star Lotulelei sign with the Bills for $10mil/yr and Dontari Poe sign with the Panthers for $9.3mil/yr.

Likewise, NT’s like Eddie Goldman, Brandon Williams, Damon Harrison and Linval Joseph all make $10mil/yr. After all these guys it’s a steep drop off to guys making $5mil.

If Danny Shelton sees himself as a 5yr/$50 million type of guy then yeah- we have to pass.
jeanpierre likes this.
ChrisXVI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2019, 06:59 PM   #3
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2019, 08:08 PM   #4
Site Donor 2019
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bedford, TX
Posts: 24,739
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

The Saints have roughly 12 mil. (per over the cap) in cap space right now and once the new league year starts the new cap adjustments will kick in and they will have more cap space.

DT
TE
OL (depth)
Safety

Question marks .. CB (PJ Williams), PRob is a year older coming off injury, WR (Dez, Meredith, Tre), Davison and Andrus Peat (reasonable contract).

Draft the BPA with the 2nd round pick.
saintsfan1976 and MarchingOn like this.
K Major is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2019, 12:53 AM   #5
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Regarding some key Saints Free Agents...

P.J. is not under contract so the only question mark with him is if he's worth bringing back. Not sure I'm rushing to bring him back. See what the market sets his value and maybe bring him back at end of Free Agency...

Meredith's 2019 cap number of $6,456,250; now, whether cut Pre/Post Jun 1 he's $2,750,000 in dead money and $3,706,250 in savings; cut him 'cause we've got better upside in Tre'quan and Kirkwood...

Dez is not under contract. He's a slow, unreliable old x-receiver at best. he's not tearing the roof off the top of defenses so I don't understand spending valuable cap space to bring him back...

Tyeler Davison is a better NT than folks want to give credit & was the point of attack for the No.1 rated rush defense. The line for him is around four years, annual cap number of 7.5 mil, 40% guaranteed...

Andrus Peat is a real tough call; Peat is way better than PFF's grading; also, remember that Peat plays hurt, latest was a week after surgery to put pins in his punch hand - something Mr. Glass would never do...

With Peat, re-work contract now to lower cap number, 70% guaranteed as incentive. But the real problem still with Peat is he's a natural, better LT than LG - this is part of the conundrum Mr. Glass creates...

We may actually see Peat's contract re-worked and then see him traded; after Ramczyk, I like Peat and Unger, but one or both may be surprises soon if their cap numbers are not re-worked...

Oh, in the by the way department, @CantGuardMike has got to be paid now before we're looking at a Cap-strangling Julio contract...
jnormand likes this.

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2019, 07:50 PM   #6
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 10,972
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Regarding some key Saints Free Agents...

P.J. is not under contract so the only question mark with him is if he's worth bringing back. Not sure I'm rushing to bring him back. See what the market sets his value and maybe bring him back at end of Free Agency...

Meredith's 2019 cap number of $6,456,250; now, whether cut Pre/Post Jun 1 he's $2,750,000 in dead money and $3,706,250 in savings; cut him 'cause we've got better upside in Tre'quan and Kirkwood...

Dez is not under contract. He's a slow, unreliable old x-receiver at best. he's not tearing the roof off the top of defenses so I don't understand spending valuable cap space to bring him back...

Tyeler Davison is a better NT than folks want to give credit & was the point of attack for the No.1 rated rush defense. The line for him is around four years, annual cap number of 7.5 mil, 40% guaranteed...

Andrus Peat is a real tough call; Peat is way better than PFF's grading; also, remember that Peat plays hurt, latest was a week after surgery to put pins in his punch hand - something Mr. Glass would never do...

With Peat, re-work contract now to lower cap number, 70% guaranteed as incentive. But the real problem still with Peat is he's a natural, better LT than LG - this is part of the conundrum Mr. Glass creates...

We may actually see Peat's contract re-worked and then see him traded; after Ramczyk, I like Peat and Unger, but one or both may be surprises soon if their cap numbers are not re-worked...

Oh, in the by the way department, @CantGuardMike has got to be paid now before we're looking at a Cap-strangling Julio contract...
Agree on P.J. Felt he performed better with a solid cast around him. Would like to have him back. He's a "nice to have"

If Meredith is healed, he's our guy. And just 26 years old, has plenty left in the tank. He made lesser QBs look very good... https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...t-third-season He's a "nice to have"

If it's not Meredith, it's Dez. Both can be very effective in the slot, overpowering smaller Nickle CBs and beating linebackers. he's a "nice to have"

Davison was nice to have. His impact in run support is above average, in pass is below average. I'm not over-paying him. He's a "Want to have"

Peat can be traded. I said it before the deadline. I don't want to hear about his injury - Armstead came back from a torn peck. Peat was a 1st round pick who's played average. I'd like to see us upgrade the spot this offseason. He's a "don't have to have"
jeanpierre and K Major like this.
saintsfan1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2019, 10:36 PM   #7
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Agree on P.J. Felt he performed better with a solid cast around him. Would like to have him back. He's a "nice to have"

If Meredith is healed, he's our guy. And just 26 years old, has plenty left in the tank. He made lesser QBs look very good... https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...t-third-season He's a "nice to have"

If it's not Meredith, it's Dez. Both can be very effective in the slot, overpowering smaller Nickle CBs and beating linebackers. he's a "nice to have"

Davison was nice to have. His impact in run support is above average, in pass is below average. I'm not over-paying him. He's a "Want to have"

Peat can be traded. I said it before the deadline. I don't want to hear about his injury - Armstead came back from a torn peck. Peat was a 1st round pick who's played average. I'd like to see us upgrade the spot this offseason. He's a "don't have to have"
Peat played ten days after having pins put in his hand!!! Mr. Glass hasn't played but a half season each year since he signed to the Big Mo...

But Cousin Sean addressed your comment today...



saintsfan1976 likes this.
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2019, 09:01 PM   #8
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 10,972
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Peat played ten days after having pins put in his hand!!! Mr. Glass hasn't played but a half season each year since he signed to the Big Mo...

But Cousin Sean addressed your comment today...



https://twitter.com/SeanFazendeFOX8/...79162780917761
But they were small pins...

Let's not compare Armstead to Peat. TA is much better at his position than Peat is. Agree with Sean we have Clapp. Let's move him for another pick!

AND... If we're really looking for cap space, can't we start with Mr Brees???
saintsfan1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2019, 07:23 AM   #9
Site Donor 2019
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bedford, TX
Posts: 24,739
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Peat can be traded. I said it before the deadline. I don't want to hear about his injury - Armstead came back from a torn peck. Peat was a 1st round pick who's played average. I'd like to see us upgrade the spot this offseason. He's a "don't have to have"
^^^ This ^^^
K Major is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2019, 09:26 PM   #10
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 10,972
Blog Entries: 3
Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

Originally Posted by K Major View Post
The Saints have roughly 12 mil. (per over the cap) in cap space right now and once the new league year starts the new cap adjustments will kick in and they will have more cap space.

DT
TE
OL (depth)
Safety

Question marks .. CB (PJ Williams), PRob is a year older coming off injury, WR (Dez, Meredith, Tre), Davison and Andrus Peat (reasonable contract).

Draft the BPA with the 2nd round pick.
I think DT is paramount.

TE is more of a game plan position now instead of having a guy like Graham. Let's be honest, Kamara is the playmaker.

OL depth, yes. Another Strief type guy can be had later in the draft.

Vonn Bell is our SS of the future. Check out PFF quote: Pro Football Focus (PFF) graded Bell's run defense at 88.2, third among all NFL safeties in 2018. His coverage skills have improved greatly over each season however.
Bell's overall grade from PFF was 75.3, 27th out of 101 defensive backs at the position. The 24-yr. old safety played better in coverage as this season progressed as well, often capably taking on an opposing tight end or even wideout out of the slot


I would add WR, LB depth (maybe starter over Klein) don't see solid LB options this year in our range.
jeanpierre likes this.
saintsfan1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/92305-2019-saints-nfl-free-agency.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
2019 Saints NFL Free Agency This thread Refback 01-26-2019 10:16 AM 3


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts