Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Rell&Gold · 01-05-2020, 07:03 PM

That TD is the worse call of them all

st thomas · 01-05-2020, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...-nfl-playoffs/

Al riverron cant seem to get up from under goodells desk and grab his own balls to busy lickin rog’s asre

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CHA_CHING · 01-06-2020, 12:28 AM

This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

burningmetal · 01-06-2020, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.

OldMaid · 01-06-2020, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.

Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They knew they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just was off today.

burningmetal · 01-06-2020, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They know they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just were off today.

I'm not denying the many mistakes the team made, at all. I'm addressing what the poster said about the no-call, and how the Saints would have let them score anyway. I just fail to see how a would-be 3rd and goal from around the 20 would have been some sure thing for the Vikings.

FinSaint · 01-06-2020, 04:49 AM

Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

WhoDat!656 · 01-06-2020, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

FinSaint · 01-06-2020, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls.

Rsanders24 · 01-06-2020, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls.

There was nothing difficult about that call yesterday though. That was the textbook definition and should have at least warranted a look. That was the game ending play. With clear video of the push off using full extension of the arm.

You owe that to the players and fans simply for the integrity of the league. What would it have hurt to just simply say we are going to take a look at it.

I will say that with the way we played for 3 quarters of the game we didn’t deserve to win but use the rule that you implemented.

01-05-2020, 07:03 PM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings That TD is the worse call of them all OldMaid likes this.

01-05-2020, 11:39 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...-nfl-playoffs/ Al riverron cant seem to get up from under goodells desk and grab his own balls to busy lickin rog’s asre Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.

01-06-2020, 12:28 AM	#3
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings This is what is wrong with this team. Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays. Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone. We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT. OldMaid, bobdog86 and K Major like this.

01-06-2020, 03:55 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by CHA_CHING This is what is wrong with this team. Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays. Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone. We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT. I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play. That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated. Rsanders24 and OldMaid like this.

01-06-2020, 04:11 AM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by burningmetal I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play. That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated. Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ? It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly. Saints knew this. They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They knew they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about. The whole team , minus some bright spots, just was off today.

01-06-2020, 04:22 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by OldMaid Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ? It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly. Saints knew this. They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They know they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about. The whole team , minus some bright spots, just were off today. I'm not denying the many mistakes the team made, at all. I'm addressing what the poster said about the no-call, and how the Saints would have let them score anyway. I just fail to see how a would-be 3rd and goal from around the 20 would have been some sure thing for the Vikings. OldMaid likes this.

01-06-2020, 04:49 AM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?! That wasn't called an OPI either.

01-06-2020, 07:09 AM	#8
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,097	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by FinSaint Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?! That wasn't called an OPI either. The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

01-06-2020, 10:28 AM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender. That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls. jeanpierre likes this.

01-06-2020, 10:41 AM	#10
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings Originally Posted by FinSaint That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls. There was nothing difficult about that call yesterday though. That was the textbook definition and should have at least warranted a look. That was the game ending play. With clear video of the push off using full extension of the arm. You owe that to the players and fans simply for the integrity of the league. What would it have hurt to just simply say we are going to take a look at it. I will say that with the way we played for 3 quarters of the game we didn’t deserve to win but use the rule that you implemented. Rugby Saint II, OldMaid, darksoul35 and 1 others like this.