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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by st thomas Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and Ill leave out square. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My bad I got carried away!! Wishful thinking!!...

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Old 01-08-2020, 08:40 AM   #61
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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

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Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and Ill leave out square.


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Online Petition, of course...

Would like to Thank the idiot that proposed this and only managed 300 signatures which now emboldens Riveron and the NFL...


Change.org: Fire Al Riveron, Fix The NFL Officiating!
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Not a big fan of Seifert's politically correctness, white-washing of the NFL's willful neglect of officiating, but he negotiates to several correct points in this article...

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Im a huge college football fan for a certain team and theres only 1 play that still pisses me off from 7 years ago due to officials . The freakin nfl is a complete joke week after week its all that we see and hear all season long. Its fixed period. Wipe out them asre wipes and start over. Dump this ballsless al Riveron sucking on goodells balls and return to normal . That is all


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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Not a big fan of Seifert's politically correctness, white-washing of the NFL's willful neglect of officiating, but he negotiates to several correct points in this article...

https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...41159575523328
Those clear twists in the reversal standard would have made sense if they had led to a consistent place. Instead, the NFL's opening playoff weekend further clouded the picture. Riveron refused even to launch a formal review of Minnesota Vikings tight end Kyle Rudolph's game-winning touchdown last Sunday over the New Orleans Saints. Replays showed Rudolph's right arm push Saints defender P.J. Williams hard enough to make Williams' head snap backward.

Riveron said in a pool report that "none of that contact rises to the level of a foul." But Parry was joined by two former referees (Terry McAulay and Gene Steratore) and one former NFL officiating chief (Mike Pereira) in thinking it was a foul. Pereira said on his Last Call show that declining to initiate a review was consistent with the league's replay standard. The NFL, after all, added only one OPI call via replay after Week 2. But was it a "replay standard" or simply a way for Riveron to avoid reviewing and/or overturning significant plays?

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Officiating analyst says PI should have been called on final playESPN NFL officiating analyst John Parry felt there should have been offensive pass interference on Kyle Rudolph's game-winning touchdown.
Parry, for one, noted that there was a relatively obvious indicator that could be used to see the difference between standard contact and pass interference: Williams' head snapping back at the force of Rudolph's push.

"The standard ended up being impossibly high," Parry said. "They needed to define the standard better with indicators to know when it would be reversed or not. In this case, if [Rudolph] just has his arm extended, it's not pass interference. But when you see how the defender reacts, that's a yes. The elbow is bent and the arm is then extended to create the separation. That's pass interference.
Define the standard? These people aren't idiots. Any concern about getting the calls "Right" on the field is secondary to (a) perception of the league and (b) using the rules to influence the outcome.

This is no conspiracy theory. This is reality to anyone who has eyes and watches the games. The league will, ultimately, blame the refs, and token steps will be made to placate the public, but in the end nothing will change because Roger needs certain TV markets more than others.

I'm sorry if some of you refuse to believe it. It sucks. I hate it. That doesn't make it any less accurate.
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Old 01-10-2020, 12:06 PM   #67
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Cant wait till congress gets involved this shiiit needs to change and when some big gambling politician looses his as in Vegas on a no. Call u see a change soon grant it . I heard something that makes me think we need to start buying knock off nfl everything quit putting more money in there wallets . I myself been buying for my kids and grandkids for years there crap apparall no more Im sick of goodell and these greedy owners . That dont give a crap about the outcome of a game


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Microcosm of our society. Truth isn't truth. Facts aren't facts. Reality isn't reality. It's all about what you believe, perceive, or desire the truth, the facts and reality to be.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:52 PM   #70
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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

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Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL.

The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction.

Anyone who watches the NFL much at all and understands football at even a basic level can see the refs are highly inconsistent at best. Personally I believe the league does what it can do to control the outcome. I'd argue the point with anyone because to me you'd have to be blind not to see it. The Saints aren't the only victims, just the most visible because of the very high-profile calls made (and deliberately not made) against them.

The same excuse was used against the Saints that was used against Seattle just a week earlier on a play that was clearly PI and clearly determined the outcome of the game. Al said in both cases it didn't rise to the level of a foul, and it both cases it is clear there was very deliberate PI.

You either see it or you won't allow yourself to admit it. I don't want to think the NFL is rigged, but you have to work hard to watch games without coming away with the conclusion that, well, the NFL is rigged.
Im not sure that I think they control outcomes of the games as far as them helping who they want in the Super Bowl but I know for a fact that they have teams that they blatantly screw because I see it every week. It all started with Roger and the so called Bountygate. Refs have each others back and its obvious when nearly every 50 50 call goes against your team.
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