Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by st thomas Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and I’ll leave out square. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My bad I got carried away!! Wishful thinking!!...

Like Tree67Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2020, 09:40 AM   #61
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Originally Posted by st thomas View Post
Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and I’ll leave out square.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My bad I got carried away!! Wishful thinking!!
st thomas likes this.
halloween 65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 04:09 AM   #62
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Online Petition, of course...

Would like to Thank the idiot that proposed this and only managed 300 signatures which now emboldens Riveron and the NFL...


Change.org: Fire Al Riveron, Fix The NFL Officiating!
jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 10:07 AM   #63
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Not a big fan of Seifert's politically correctness, white-washing of the NFL's willful neglect of officiating, but he negotiates to several correct points in this article...

jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 10:26 AM   #64
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Thibodaux
Posts: 43,543
Blog Entries: 39
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

jeanpierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 10:42 AM   #65
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lafayette
Posts: 7,753
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

I’m a huge college football fan for a certain team and there’s only 1 play that still pisses me off from 7 years ago due to officials . The freakin nfl is a complete joke week after week it’s all that we see and hear all season long. It’s fixed period. Wipe out them asre wipes and start over. Dump this ballsless al Riveron sucking on goodells balls and return to normal . That is all


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
st thomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 10:50 AM   #66
Donated Plasma
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 18,556
Blog Entries: 5
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Not a big fan of Seifert's politically correctness, white-washing of the NFL's willful neglect of officiating, but he negotiates to several correct points in this article...

https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/stat...41159575523328
Those clear twists in the reversal standard would have made sense if they had led to a consistent place. Instead, the NFL's opening playoff weekend further clouded the picture. Riveron refused even to launch a formal review of Minnesota Vikings tight end Kyle Rudolph's game-winning touchdown last Sunday over the New Orleans Saints. Replays showed Rudolph's right arm push Saints defender P.J. Williams hard enough to make Williams' head snap backward.

Riveron said in a pool report that "none of that contact rises to the level of a foul." But Parry was joined by two former referees (Terry McAulay and Gene Steratore) and one former NFL officiating chief (Mike Pereira) in thinking it was a foul. Pereira said on his Last Call show that declining to initiate a review was consistent with the league's replay standard. The NFL, after all, added only one OPI call via replay after Week 2. But was it a "replay standard" or simply a way for Riveron to avoid reviewing and/or overturning significant plays?

play
1:26
Officiating analyst says PI should have been called on final playESPN NFL officiating analyst John Parry felt there should have been offensive pass interference on Kyle Rudolph's game-winning touchdown.
Parry, for one, noted that there was a relatively obvious indicator that could be used to see the difference between standard contact and pass interference: Williams' head snapping back at the force of Rudolph's push.

"The standard ended up being impossibly high," Parry said. "They needed to define the standard better with indicators to know when it would be reversed or not. In this case, if [Rudolph] just has his arm extended, it's not pass interference. But when you see how the defender reacts, that's a yes. The elbow is bent and the arm is then extended to create the separation. That's pass interference.
Define the standard? These people aren't idiots. Any concern about getting the calls "Right" on the field is secondary to (a) perception of the league and (b) using the rules to influence the outcome.

This is no conspiracy theory. This is reality to anyone who has eyes and watches the games. The league will, ultimately, blame the refs, and token steps will be made to placate the public, but in the end nothing will change because Roger needs certain TV markets more than others.

I'm sorry if some of you refuse to believe it. It sucks. I hate it. That doesn't make it any less accurate.
Rugby Saint II likes this.

C'mon Man...
saintfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 01:06 PM   #67
Site Donor 2018
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lafayette
Posts: 7,753
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Can’t wait till congress gets involved this shiiit needs to change and when some big gambling politician looses his as in Vegas on a no. Call u see a change soon grant it . I heard something that makes me think we need to start buying knock off nfl everything quit putting more money in there wallets . I myself been buying for my kids and grandkids for years there crap apparall no more I’m sick of goodell and these greedy owners . That don’t give a crap about the outcome of a game


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

thats the fact jack!!!!!
st thomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 02:38 PM   #68
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,457
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Microcosm of our society. Truth isn't truth. Facts aren't facts. Reality isn't reality. It's all about what you believe, perceive, or desire the truth, the facts and reality to be.
Cruize is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 02:54 PM   #69
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,524
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Official NFL Merchandise revenue is all gravy.

Here's who makes the NFL Owners Rich and Richer..........

News America Super Bowl FSI
Gatorade (PepsiCo) Sports nutrition
Visa Payment systems services
Campbell's Soup
FedEx Package delivery services, office supply retailer
Frito-Lay (PepsiCo) Salted snacks/popcorn/peanuts/dips/salsa
Mars Snackfoods (Snickers/Skittles/M&M's) Chocolate/non-chocolate confectionery
Pepsi Soft drinks
Dairy Management Inc. Dairy products (milk/yogurt/cheese)
Bridgestone Automotive tires
Procter & Gamble (Febreze, Secret, Vicks, Head & Shoulders, Gillette, Secret, Old Spice, Tide) OTC grooming, fabric/air care, household needs, OTC remedies
Verizon* Wireless, local long distance telecom services; smart communities services, digital media video services
Barclays Affinity card/rewards program
Castrol Motor oil
Anheuser-Busch Alcoholic beverages (beer, wine, hard seltzer)
USAA** Auto, home, life insurance; military appreciation
Bose Home theater system, headsets, headphones
Courtyard by Marriott Hotel
Quaker Oats (PepsiCo) Hot cereal, granola bars
Microsoft (Surface, Windows) Tablets, laptops, operating systems
Zebra Technologies Real time location solutions, on-field player tracking
Extreme Networks
Wi-Fi analytics, network solutions
Nationwide** Auto, home, life insurance
Genesis Luxury automotive
Dannon Yogurt/yogurt-based smoothies
Ford Trucks
Intel Volumetric image/video capture
Amazon Web Services Cloud infrastructure, cloud platform, machine learning, AI
Aramark B2B marketing rights
Pizza Hut Pizza carry-out, delivery, frozen
Sleep Number Mattresses, sleep tracking, bedding, sleep/wellness
Intuit Financial services
Caesars Casino
Lowe's Home improvement
Oakley
vpheughan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2020, 09:52 PM   #70
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,041
Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings

Originally Posted by saintfan View Post
Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL.

The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction.

Anyone who watches the NFL much at all and understands football at even a basic level can see the refs are highly inconsistent at best. Personally I believe the league does what it can do to control the outcome. I'd argue the point with anyone because to me you'd have to be blind not to see it. The Saints aren't the only victims, just the most visible because of the very high-profile calls made (and deliberately not made) against them.

The same excuse was used against the Saints that was used against Seattle just a week earlier on a play that was clearly PI and clearly determined the outcome of the game. Al said in both cases it didn't rise to the level of a foul, and it both cases it is clear there was very deliberate PI.

You either see it or you won't allow yourself to admit it. I don't want to think the NFL is rigged, but you have to work hard to watch games without coming away with the conclusion that, well, the NFL is rigged.
Im not sure that I think they control outcomes of the games as far as them helping who they want in the Super Bowl but I know for a fact that they have teams that they blatantly screw because I see it every week. It all started with Roger and the so called Bountygate. Refs have each others back and its obvious when nearly every 50 50 call goes against your team.
darksoul35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 AM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts