2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 05-07-2020, 12:23 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Who will be the 90th?

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre · 05-07-2020, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

JP you have one of the shortest tempers when it comes to injuries... You can't tell me you're completely confident in our LBs either coming back at full strength OR playing a full season.

Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em...

And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible...

And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers...

Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system...

So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game...

I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily...

And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me...

It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games...

We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left...

That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves...

As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines...

And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer?

Rugby Saint II · 05-07-2020, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em...

And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible...

And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers...

Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system...

So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game...

I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily...

And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me...

It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games...

We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left...

That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves...

As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines...

And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer?

Give me a boundary cornerback please.

jeanpierre · 05-08-2020, 05:47 PM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Larry Warford, Bye

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020)

FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020)

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020)

WR-Z (2) 17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020)

LDE (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)

NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton

SS (2) 27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)

LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020)

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)

RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel

90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2020)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

K Major · 05-08-2020, 06:05 PM

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24),

I hope Ruiz is the truth in 2020 wherever he lines up this season ... like Ramz was a a rookie.

jeanpierre · 05-09-2020, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24),

I hope Ruiz is the truth in 2020 wherever he lines up this season ... like Ramz was a a rookie.

Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook...

Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers...

McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard...

AsylumGuido · 05-10-2020, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook...

Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers...

McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard...

The way I heard it interpreted was that a center had to wear a number in the 50's, while the only offensive players that can wear the numbers are offensive linemen. A guard wearing a number in the 50's can also line up at center at anytime. A guard with a number in the 60's cannot unless he reports in to the official that he is playing center ... much like an OT reporting in as an eligible receiver because of wearing a non-receiver number.

vpheughan · 05-10-2020, 09:17 AM

According to the NFL Rule Book, only centers are allowed numbers 50–59, though occasionally other offensive linemen are given numbers in this range.
The numbers used relate to the player's primary position when they are first assigned a number. If they later change positions, they can keep their prior number, unless it conflicts with the eligible receiver rule.

50 – Ben Hamilton, Broncos Right Guard
59 - Nick Cole, Eagles Right Guard
63 - Jeff Saturday Colts Center

jeanpierre · 05-10-2020, 03:38 PM

Rule 5. Players, Substitutes, Equipment, General Rules
SECTION 1 - PLAYERS
ARTICLE 1. NUMBER OF PLAYERS

The game is played by two teams of 11 players each.

If Team A has more than 11 players in its formation for more than three seconds, or if Team B has more than 11 players in its formation and the snap is imminent, it is a foul. Once the ball is made ready for play, if either team has more than 11 players in its formation prior to a free kick, it is also a foul. In these instances, game officials shall blow their whistles immediately and not allow the snap or kick to occur.

Penalty: For more than 11 players in the formation prior to the snap or free kick: Loss of five yards from the succeeding spot.

If a team has more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair-catch kick is made, the ball is in play, and it is a foul.

Penalty: For more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone while the ball is in play: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.

Note: It is not a foul if a team has fewer than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair- catch kick is made.
ARTICLE 2. PLAYERS NUMBERED BY POSITION

All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5, Section 4, Article 3, Item 3. Such numerals must be by playing position, as follows:

quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers: 1–19;
running backs and defensive backs: 20–49;
centers: 50–79;
offensive guards and tackles: 60–79;
wide receivers: 10–19 and 80–89;
tight ends and H-backs: 40–49 and 80–89;
defensive linemen: 50–79 and 90–99;
linebackers: 40–59 and 90–99.

If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL, and such change moves him from a position as an ineligible pass receiver to that of an eligible pass receiver, or from a position as an eligible pass receiver to that of an ineligible pass receiver, he must be issued an appropriate new jersey numeral. A change in jersey numeral is not required if the change is from an ineligible position to another ineligible position, or from an eligible position to another eligible position, provided that the player has participated at least one season at his position prior to the change.

Any request to wear a numeral for a special position not specified above (e.g., H-back) must be made to the Commissioner. During the preseason period when playing rosters are larger, the League will allow duplication and other temporary deviations from the numbering scheme specified above, but the rule must be adhered to for all players during the regular season and postseason. Clubs must make numerals available to adhere to the rule, even if it requires returning to circulation a numeral that has been retired or withheld for other reasons. See 5-3-1 for reporting a change of position.

2019 NFL Rule Book

jeanpierre · 05-10-2020, 03:45 PM

Use to be Centers were in the 50s number range with linebackers...

Guards were in the 60s range, Offensive/Defensive Tackles in the 70s range...

Offensive/Defensive Ends in the 80s (Tight Ends and Wide Ends)...

Nose Tackles in the 90s, Cornerbacks in the 20s, Safeties in the 40s...

Quarterbacks wore 1-19, Running (Tail, Half, Slot, Full) backs in the 30s...

05-07-2020, 12:23 AM	#221
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Who will be the 90th? OFFENSE QB (3) *9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)* RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020) WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) LG (2) *75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020) C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 64 - Will Clapp, 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)* RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020) TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020) WR-Z (2) *17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)* DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020) DT3 (2) *93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020) LDE* (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020) SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020) FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton SS (2) *27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)* LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) LS (1) *49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)* RS () 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel 90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4* KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

05-07-2020, 12:25 AM	#222
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 JP you have one of the shortest tempers when it comes to injuries... You can't tell me you're completely confident in our LBs either coming back at full strength OR playing a full season. Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em... And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible... And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers... Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system... So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game... I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily... And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me... It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games... We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left... That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves... As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines... And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer?
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

05-07-2020, 02:43 PM	#223
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Read my entire post, Brother '76! Today's game, we just don't see the volume of 3 LBer sets snaps like we did twenty years ago; we're in nickel, heavy nickel, or dime in over 2/3rd's of 'em... And I'll expand on another point that was on my mind, but I failed to convey - Ireland is rightfully spreading the talent around on the field as much as possible... And To me, the priorities on defense that will have the biggest impact need to be defensive line, defensive backs, then linebackers... Now, we've got a talented roster, but grading elite at every single position is not realistic in today's free agent system... So I'm satisfied we've got at least one elite linebacker, best in the league last year, and that the others can step up, complement, build around Demario's game... I'm more concerned about opponents easily rolling protection up on Cam Jordan, double-teaming Onyemata and eliminating our base Pass Rush so easily... And if you want to critique my temper on injuries, that's all good, but you're oversimplifying my frustration, so let's be clear what really frustrates me... It's when we roll two-three-draft picks, or a great deal of cap money into a player that's perennially not available for the tournament or strategic conference games... We've got a third round pick invested in Alex Anzalone, one; some of the other players are either a truckload of cap space or draft capital and we've nothing left... That would more accurately encapsulate my frustration, temper if you want with our personnel moves... As much as I like Cam, I like the Pats' approach of having a bunch of second, third day draft picks, and rotating young, hungry defensive lineman every game like Hockey switches lines... And getting back to spreading the talent around, would you rather WR3, or a RDE2, or another boundary CB, or a scat-RB, or another LBer? Give me a boundary cornerback please.

05-08-2020, 05:47 PM	#224
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Larry Warford, Bye OFFENSE QB (3) *9 – Drew Brees (FA 2020), 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered R1), 5 - Jameis Winston (FA 2020), 2 - Tommy Stevens (R7P26, #240)* RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 24 - Dwayne Washington (FA 2020), 44 - Taquan Mizzel (RFC 2020), 00 - Tony Jones Jr. (UDFA 2020) FB (1) 32 - Michael Burton (FA 2020), 30 - Ricky Ortiz WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 16 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020), 18 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020) WR-S (2) *80 - Austin Carr (FA 2020), 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 00 - Marquez Callaway (UDFA 2020), 00 - Juwan Johnson (UDFA 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)* LG (2) *75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton, 00 - Adrian Magee (UDFA 2020) C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)* RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 64 - Will Clapp, 00 - Calvin Throckmorton (UDFA 2020) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 00 - Darrin Paulo (UDFA 2020), 00 - Jordan Steckler (UDFA 2020) TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 82 - Adam Trautman (R3P41, #105), 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020) WR-Z (2) *17 - Emmanuel Sanders (FA 2020), 11 - Deonte Harris, 15 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020), 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020)* DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 57 - Noah Spence (FA 2020), 00 - Gus Cumberlander (UDFA 2020) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020) DT3 (2) *93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, 00 - Malcolm Roach (UDFA 2020) LDE* (2) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 00 - Margus Hunt (FA 2020), 70 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020) WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Chase Hansen MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss, 00 - Joe Bachie (UDFA 2020) SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso, 53 - Zach Baun (R3P10, #74), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020) NCB (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, P. J. Williams (FA 2020), 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020), 35 - Deatrick Nichols (FA 2020) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 21 - Patrick Robinson, 00 - Tino Ellis (UDFA 2020) FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton SS (2) *27 - Malcolm Jenkins (FA 2020), 36 - D.J. Swearinger (2020 RFA 2020), 31 - Chris Johnson (RFC 2020)* LCB (2) 20 - Janoris Jenkins, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA 2020), 00 - Keith Washington (UDFA 2020) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead, 00 - Blake Gillikin (UDFA 2020) LS (1) *49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020)* RS () 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel 90-man Roster Count - Total: 89; Offense: 44; Defense: 41; Kicking: 4* KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP
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05-08-2020, 06:05 PM	#225
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05-09-2020, 11:09 AM	#226
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), I hope Ruiz is the truth in 2020 wherever he lines up this season ... like Ramz was a a rookie. Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook... Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers... McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard... ChrisXVI likes this.
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05-10-2020, 08:20 AM	#227
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Ruiz will be Center, one of the reasons he kept/was assigned his jersey number (only centers can wear nos. in the 50s') per NFL RuleBook... Ruiz is also very adapt at getting low, underneath interior defenders, and moving 'em out then letting Guard break off next level to the linebackers... McCoy has better movement in space, that's why he'll be at Right Guard... The way I heard it interpreted was that a center had to wear a number in the 50's, while the only offensive players that can wear the numbers are offensive linemen. A guard wearing a number in the 50's can also line up at center at anytime. A guard with a number in the 60's cannot unless he reports in to the official that he is playing center ... much like an OT reporting in as an eligible receiver because of wearing a non-receiver number.

05-10-2020, 09:17 AM	#228
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook According to the NFL Rule Book, only centers are allowed numbers 50–59, though occasionally other offensive linemen are given numbers in this range. The numbers used relate to the player's primary position when they are first assigned a number. If they later change positions, they can keep their prior number, unless it conflicts with the eligible receiver rule. 50 – Ben Hamilton, Broncos Right Guard 59 - Nick Cole, Eagles Right Guard 63 - Jeff Saturday Colts Center
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05-10-2020, 03:38 PM	#229
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Rule 5. Players, Substitutes, Equipment, General Rules SECTION 1 - PLAYERS ARTICLE 1. NUMBER OF PLAYERS The game is played by two teams of 11 players each. If Team A has more than 11 players in its formation for more than three seconds, or if Team B has more than 11 players in its formation and the snap is imminent, it is a foul. Once the ball is made ready for play, if either team has more than 11 players in its formation prior to a free kick, it is also a foul. In these instances, game officials shall blow their whistles immediately and not allow the snap or kick to occur. Penalty: For more than 11 players in the formation prior to the snap or free kick: Loss of five yards from the succeeding spot. If a team has more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair-catch kick is made, the ball is in play, and it is a foul. Penalty: For more than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone while the ball is in play: Loss of five yards from the previous spot. Note: It is not a foul if a team has fewer than 11 players on the field of play or the end zone when a snap, free kick, or fair- catch kick is made. ARTICLE 2. PLAYERS NUMBERED BY POSITION All players must wear numerals on their jerseys in accordance with Rule 5, Section 4, Article 3, Item 3. Such numerals must be by playing position, as follows: quarterbacks, punters, and placekickers: 1–19; running backs and defensive backs: 20–49; centers: 50–79; offensive guards and tackles: 60–79; wide receivers: 10–19 and 80–89; tight ends and H-backs: 40–49 and 80–89; defensive linemen: 50–79 and 90–99; linebackers: 40–59 and 90–99. If a player changes his position during his playing career in the NFL, and such change moves him from a position as an ineligible pass receiver to that of an eligible pass receiver, or from a position as an eligible pass receiver to that of an ineligible pass receiver, he must be issued an appropriate new jersey numeral. A change in jersey numeral is not required if the change is from an ineligible position to another ineligible position, or from an eligible position to another eligible position, provided that the player has participated at least one season at his position prior to the change. Any request to wear a numeral for a special position not specified above (e.g., H-back) must be made to the Commissioner. During the preseason period when playing rosters are larger, the League will allow duplication and other temporary deviations from the numbering scheme specified above, but the rule must be adhered to for all players during the regular season and postseason. Clubs must make numerals available to adhere to the rule, even if it requires returning to circulation a numeral that has been retired or withheld for other reasons. See 5-3-1 for reporting a change of position. 2019 NFL Rule Book
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05-10-2020, 03:45 PM	#230
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Use to be Centers were in the 50s number range with linebackers... Guards were in the 60s range, Offensive/Defensive Tackles in the 70s range... Offensive/Defensive Ends in the 80s (Tight Ends and Wide Ends)... Nose Tackles in the 90s, Cornerbacks in the 20s, Safeties in the 40s... Quarterbacks wore 1-19, Running (Tail, Half, Slot, Full) backs in the 30s...

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