Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread

03-25-2020, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I respect your opinion but anytime the CDC has to vet information with the white house then I feel like there is a cover up going on. The CDC can't provide any information that the government hasn't vetted. We are not getting the full story.

Remember, this President is worried about his economic status more than American lives. Right or wrong I'm not convinced that Mike Pence needs to give us the information(true or not) The government told 33 lies(or misleading info) about the virus in March alone. I know this isn't the political board but it seems relevant.

Grab a beer, sit and chat with me. Health vs money is a false dichotomy created by a political system in a humanity where people are presented only two sides and forced to choose.

You aren't wrong, everything is vetted through a filter and contrary to popular belief the economy is more important than health. Again, I am not arguing with you, I am merely putting things into context.

Have a tequila.

I have worked with scientists my entire career and they should NEVER be allowed to speak to the public unfiltered. That is how you start a panic.

Yes, the Government filters everything, only a minority percentage of humans are capable of the critical thought required to put raw data into context... Critical thought is not a common prowess, just look at how football statistics are interpreted. The government should be delivering what you need to know, in a way that doesn't cause wholesale panic, markets to crash, looting to start..

The economy is more important than health because the two are not mutually exclusive and without a viable functioning economy, healthcare doesn't exist.

If we do not flip the switch and get this economy rolling PFDQ no one will be able to afford healthcare, not even the government because they rely on taxing transactions and income to provide in the absence of private health care. When that happens the government will print money and that will bring about massive inflation (see Venezuela).

Another tequila please... make it a double.

At the end of the day there is no right decision, only a righteous one. Do you risk the health of millions so that billions have a viable future or do you try and save millions knowing that once healthcare has no money they will all die anyway.

GDP is the lifeline of healthcare. Overall health and quality of life has never increased during a recession or depression, its the opposite that happens.

Ill have another tequila and the check please.

Peace....

jeanpierre · 03-25-2020, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

...I have worked with scientists my entire career and they should NEVER be allowed to speak to the public unfiltered. That is how you start a panic....

This is why you have to put in the time and work to better inform yourselves...

Take Celestial Physics & Mechanics - even with current technology studying celestial bodies, we're basically fumbling in near-dark realizing we're barely missing collisions that could end all life on our planet...

Imagine how people and markets would react everytime the Daily Celestial Physics & Mechanics Report came out - We'll know in 36 hours if Eastern Europe will be obliterated...

These near misses happen so often, but being educated, at least informed, you'd have a healthy grasp and outlook and would conduct your daily life in a much healthier manner...

The catalogue of known viruses is tremendous; Covid-19 causing the current pandemic is a corona virus which are the cause for more than over a third of your garden variety colds...

It's just that this one has a more resilient 'spore' if you will than has a longer half-life than most, which is what is making it such a boogarou for us...

And in so far as information by the admin, no matter your politics, you have to understand that data is constantly coming in such a fluid manner, it's not surprising we have contradictions from previous briefings...

Now if the distresses, turn the TV off and just wait for the church bells ring, or, you can work not only on being better informed, but a healthier outlook on how this is happening...

Remember mercurochrome? Those of us who're old enough remember it know that it stop infections on cuts and scrapes in its tracks, now we're told it was toxic...

Eggs? Eggs led to arteriosclerosis causing heart disease; then some docs noticed healthy old people were still eatin' 'em; then we learned about differences in HDL & LDL hormones and eggs help prevent it...

So just breathe, understand even with a lots of data, it's still just a sliver of the total spectrum; no matter your politics, best elected leaders can do is reassure and keep Public Calm which is paramount to recovery...

vpheughan · 03-26-2020, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How about growing up.

My age level is proportional to those I'm with!

WW_Who_Dat · 03-26-2020, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wish they would just let it run its course. Protect and isolate the at risk, quarantine the sick and save the hospital space for the people with preexisting conditions. There’s no cure anyway and those with strong immune systems can recover at home.
Yes it will spread and yes there will be more deaths but it will pass much quicker.
All this being said it’s not the direction the powers that be chose to go so listen and do what they are saying.

Well said but with what is happening in New Orleans access to the city should restricted to only the absolute minimum movement enforced by National guard. No in and out except for authorized suppliers. Stop all thru traffic the area except urgent emergency issue only basis.

Other areas that are showing high percentage of cluster infection should be handled the same. There major (ie the majority) areas of our county could be open and back to normal with some of the current social distancing in place and additional safety prevention measures in place. These low density areas that do not expose people who’s daily life does not not bring them into constant contact with cluster infection situations.

I love New Orleans wife and family are there often have a small place in the wharehouse district for our visits and Saints game so this comes from a position of love and pride for the city and great sorrow for all affected. But with 70% + infections in New Orleans and surround parishes address that with the most aggressive action plan possible for not only Louisiana’s peoples but the Southeast in general.

Cruize · 03-26-2020, 02:28 PM

Be safe everyone. It's real. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

TheOak · 03-27-2020, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Well said but with what is happening in New Orleans access to the city should restricted to only the absolute minimum movement enforced by National guard. No in and out except for authorized suppliers. Stop all thru traffic the area except urgent emergency issue only basis.

Other areas that are showing high percentage of cluster infection should be handled the same. There major (ie the majority) areas of our county could be open and back to normal with some of the current social distancing in place and additional safety prevention measures in place. These low density areas that do not expose people who’s daily life does not not bring them into constant contact with cluster infection situations.

I love New Orleans wife and family are there often have a small place in the wharehouse district for our visits and Saints game so this comes from a position of love and pride for the city and great sorrow for all affected. But with 70% + infections in New Orleans and surround parishes address that with the most aggressive action plan possible for not only Louisiana’s peoples but the Southeast in general.

Mardi Gras is why New Orleans has the rates that it does and as a Veteran I can tell you... You do not want the military showing up in any town unless they are helping evac or fill sand bags.

halloween 65 · 03-27-2020, 03:38 PM

Read Revelations. It's all there.

pinch · 03-27-2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Read Revelations. It's all there.

Oh stop. There have already been pandemics that killed upwards of 30 million, long ago, and not much happened after that.

It's life as usual in a rock floating through outer space. It'll be more of the same after this pandemic.

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2020, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by pinch

Oh stop. There have already been pandemics that killed upwards of 30 million, long ago, and not much happened after that.

It's life as usual in a rock floating through outer space. It'll be more of the same after this pandemic.

Long time, no see, pinch. Yes. Makes sense. The simple fact is that there is a much more mobile world community and this is a virus family that has not been encountered and therefore not defended against with a vaccine. Historical pandemics would have been far worse today and yet, if they had the science of today vaccines and treatments would have been developed to reduce those numbers of deaths from hundreds of thousands to thousands. Be glad you are living today.

rezburna · 03-27-2020, 07:19 PM

It’s starting to get worse. That’s expected, but try to limit how much you move around. We have SO MANY positive cases right now and people are starting to die a little more frequently. The numbers of positive patients is getting slightly overwhelming and we had to expand our ICU to keep up. We’re being staffed out to other departments and hospitals because people are getting overworked. It’s a mess at the moment. Stay home. Chill out.

03-25-2020, 06:23 AM	#31
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I respect your opinion but anytime the CDC has to vet information with the white house then I feel like there is a cover up going on. The CDC can't provide any information that the government hasn't vetted. We are not getting the full story. Remember, this President is worried about his economic status more than American lives. Right or wrong I'm not convinced that Mike Pence needs to give us the information(true or not) The government told 33 lies(or misleading info) about the virus in March alone. I know this isn't the political board but it seems relevant. Grab a beer, sit and chat with me. Health vs money is a false dichotomy created by a political system in a humanity where people are presented only two sides and forced to choose. You aren't wrong, everything is vetted through a filter and contrary to popular belief the economy is more important than health. Again, I am not arguing with you, I am merely putting things into context. Have a tequila. I have worked with scientists my entire career and they should NEVER be allowed to speak to the public unfiltered. That is how you start a panic. Yes, the Government filters everything, only a minority percentage of humans are capable of the critical thought required to put raw data into context... Critical thought is not a common prowess, just look at how football statistics are interpreted. The government should be delivering what you need to know, in a way that doesn't cause wholesale panic, markets to crash, looting to start.. The economy is more important than health because the two are not mutually exclusive and without a viable functioning economy, healthcare doesn't exist. If we do not flip the switch and get this economy rolling PFDQ no one will be able to afford healthcare, not even the government because they rely on taxing transactions and income to provide in the absence of private health care. When that happens the government will print money and that will bring about massive inflation (see Venezuela). Another tequila please... make it a double. At the end of the day there is no right decision, only a righteous one. Do you risk the health of millions so that billions have a viable future or do you try and save millions knowing that once healthcare has no money they will all die anyway. GDP is the lifeline of healthcare. Overall health and quality of life has never increased during a recession or depression, its the opposite that happens. Ill have another tequila and the check please. Peace.... saintfan, jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.
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03-25-2020, 09:01 AM	#32
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by TheOak ...I have worked with scientists my entire career and they should NEVER be allowed to speak to the public unfiltered. That is how you start a panic.... This is why you have to put in the time and work to better inform yourselves... Take Celestial Physics & Mechanics - even with current technology studying celestial bodies, we're basically fumbling in near-dark realizing we're barely missing collisions that could end all life on our planet... Imagine how people and markets would react everytime the Daily Celestial Physics & Mechanics Report came out - We'll know in 36 hours if Eastern Europe will be obliterated... These near misses happen so often, but being educated, at least informed, you'd have a healthy grasp and outlook and would conduct your daily life in a much healthier manner... The catalogue of known viruses is tremendous; Covid-19 causing the current pandemic is a corona virus which are the cause for more than over a third of your garden variety colds... It's just that this one has a more resilient 'spore' if you will than has a longer half-life than most, which is what is making it such a boogarou for us... And in so far as information by the admin, no matter your politics, you have to understand that data is constantly coming in such a fluid manner, it's not surprising we have contradictions from previous briefings... Now if the distresses, turn the TV off and just wait for the church bells ring, or, you can work not only on being better informed, but a healthier outlook on how this is happening... Remember mercurochrome? Those of us who're old enough remember it know that it stop infections on cuts and scrapes in its tracks, now we're told it was toxic... Eggs? Eggs led to arteriosclerosis causing heart disease; then some docs noticed healthy old people were still eatin' 'em; then we learned about differences in HDL & LDL hormones and eggs help prevent it... So just breathe, understand even with a lots of data, it's still just a sliver of the total spectrum; no matter your politics, best elected leaders can do is reassure and keep Public Calm which is paramount to recovery... AsylumGuido likes this.
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03-26-2020, 07:02 AM	#33
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How about growing up. My age level is proportional to those I'm with!
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03-26-2020, 12:08 PM	#34
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by The Dude Wish they would just let it run its course. Protect and isolate the at risk, quarantine the sick and save the hospital space for the people with preexisting conditions. There’s no cure anyway and those with strong immune systems can recover at home. Yes it will spread and yes there will be more deaths but it will pass much quicker. All this being said it’s not the direction the powers that be chose to go so listen and do what they are saying. Well said but with what is happening in New Orleans access to the city should restricted to only the absolute minimum movement enforced by National guard. No in and out except for authorized suppliers. Stop all thru traffic the area except urgent emergency issue only basis. Other areas that are showing high percentage of cluster infection should be handled the same. There major (ie the majority) areas of our county could be open and back to normal with some of the current social distancing in place and additional safety prevention measures in place. These low density areas that do not expose people who’s daily life does not not bring them into constant contact with cluster infection situations. I love New Orleans wife and family are there often have a small place in the wharehouse district for our visits and Saints game so this comes from a position of love and pride for the city and great sorrow for all affected. But with 70% + infections in New Orleans and surround parishes address that with the most aggressive action plan possible for not only Louisiana’s peoples but the Southeast in general. SmashMouth likes this.

03-26-2020, 02:28 PM	#35
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Be safe everyone. It's real. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
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03-27-2020, 03:21 PM	#36
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat Well said but with what is happening in New Orleans access to the city should restricted to only the absolute minimum movement enforced by National guard. No in and out except for authorized suppliers. Stop all thru traffic the area except urgent emergency issue only basis. Other areas that are showing high percentage of cluster infection should be handled the same. There major (ie the majority) areas of our county could be open and back to normal with some of the current social distancing in place and additional safety prevention measures in place. These low density areas that do not expose people who’s daily life does not not bring them into constant contact with cluster infection situations. I love New Orleans wife and family are there often have a small place in the wharehouse district for our visits and Saints game so this comes from a position of love and pride for the city and great sorrow for all affected. But with 70% + infections in New Orleans and surround parishes address that with the most aggressive action plan possible for not only Louisiana’s peoples but the Southeast in general. Mardi Gras is why New Orleans has the rates that it does and as a Veteran I can tell you... You do not want the military showing up in any town unless they are helping evac or fill sand bags.

03-27-2020, 03:38 PM	#37
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Read Revelations. It's all there.

03-27-2020, 05:33 PM	#38
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by halloween 65 Read Revelations. It's all there. Oh stop. There have already been pandemics that killed upwards of 30 million, long ago, and not much happened after that. It's life as usual in a rock floating through outer space. It'll be more of the same after this pandemic. AsylumGuido likes this.

03-27-2020, 06:06 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread Originally Posted by pinch Oh stop. There have already been pandemics that killed upwards of 30 million, long ago, and not much happened after that. It's life as usual in a rock floating through outer space. It'll be more of the same after this pandemic. Long time, no see, pinch. Yes. Makes sense. The simple fact is that there is a much more mobile world community and this is a virus family that has not been encountered and therefore not defended against with a vaccine. Historical pandemics would have been far worse today and yet, if they had the science of today vaccines and treatments would have been developed to reduce those numbers of deaths from hundreds of thousands to thousands. Be glad you are living today.

03-27-2020, 07:19 PM	#40
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Louisiana issues statewide stay-at-home order to combat coronavirus spread It’s starting to get worse. That’s expected, but try to limit how much you move around. We have SO MANY positive cases right now and people are starting to die a little more frequently. The numbers of positive patients is getting slightly overwhelming and we had to expand our ICU to keep up. We’re being staffed out to other departments and hospitals because people are getting overworked. It’s a mess at the moment. Stay home. Chill out.