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Our society needs to change. Our economy needs to change. Our health care system needs to change. All of the above does not include allowing/accepting/rationalizing thousands of deaths as the price of doing business.

TheOak

Before I have to deal with anymore asinine presumptive replies, I am merely having a discussion with Mr. Cruze and not trying to kill any ones Memaw.

Death is not an acceptance, it is inevitable, it is as certain as life; as you are fully aware. The subject makes for some of the most illogical thoughts and actions that I have ever seen. It is extremely difficult to have a rational discussion about human attrition which is odd because death is the only guaranteed part of life.

People vehemently protest its acceptance, even 'just one'... but these same people have gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle intoxicated and willfully accepted not only their death but the death of others in their path as a possible outcome of that action.

So it is rather hypocritical for most people to say a word about risking life when a person expresses concern and a desire to not destroy their children's future by letting the economy fail in a panic.

I believe we have all seen this curve and heard talk about flattening it. Flattening the curve has nothing to do with prevention or stopping the virus and everything to do with not overwhelming the healthcare system to allow people to get sick and recover at a managed rate... They aren't lowering the total infection rate, they are dragging it out. When TheDude said "run its course", the government is doing exactly just that because they cant stop it, they are only trying to manage the peak.

Nothing is going to change the mortality rate of Covid-19, your government wants to change the rate of system failure induced mortality. Because..... politicians.. public opinion... reelectability...

WillMacKenzie

What you see before you is what happens when people become disillusioned to the fact that they never were fully in control of their lives to begin with.

It's an unfortunate circumstance, but it's not new. There's always been events like this, and there will always be. There will be a time to look in the rearview and learn lessons, but I would caution anyone to keep an eye on the windshield as well.

The media is so used to finding answers to problems that don't exist (agendas) during times of unprecedented peace and prosperity, that when an *actual* problem comes along, they have no clue what to do.

So people do what they've always done, panic buy toilet paper, scapegoat, and get hung up on that one tree, when there's a forest burning around them.

It's dangerous to look at daily charts if you're investing for 10 years down the road. The stock market has demonstrated over and over again the result of emotional buying and selling.

For example, we know that the testing was/is not sufficient (yet), so the numbers of deaths and hospitalizations are going to look higher initially than what they really are. That doesn't diminish the loss of life, that sucks, and nobody wants to be sick or worse see their loved ones fighting for their life.

I just think that hysteria shouldn't be fueling emotionally induced policies that can't be so easily reversed. They're hell bent on releasing thousands of inmates into the general population -- but then threaten you with possible jail if you break quarantine. They want you to quarantine for 14 days for crossing a state line, but then rail against holding suspected traffickers and drug runners crossing the border by the hundreds. None of that makes sense to me. Yet, it's what's literally happening, and it's why these things will always continue to happen, because it's human nature to react this way when you feel like you've lost control.

Disclaimer: just my opinion of course, don't crucify me, and you're welcome to agree or disagree with any or as much of it as you want. Wash your hands and don't touch your face.

saintfan

Those of you who react and respond reasonably and with clarity of thought I applaud you all. You are the people who help me to maintain my declining faith in humanity.

Those of you who are over reacting, parroting fatalistic news reports, and politicizing the current situation suck. You suck.

Please be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

JayFoster

I am all about the economy as I have run multiple businesses and I currently run them.

But, here's what happened in 1918: https://www.history.com/news/spanish...esponse-cities

See the difference? I could post a chart of the difference in responses but you get the idea. The alternative was to test early and often with selected shutdowns but we missed that boat.

If people would just listen to experts, this could have already been over as far as flattening the curve and everyone could go back to work. If we all sacrifice a little now, we can make it better for the entire country. If we would just do it now, it would be over much quicker and we could get back to enjoying spring training, etc.

It just does not make economic or moral sense to open everything back up and infect and kill more people. I wish we could get every state and the federal government saying close down everything and let's get it done.

The bottom line is we just sacrifice a little bit and stay home for a few weeks until we can get a handle on this (and yes, I recognize that some need $ to stay home and since the government - at least some parts - asked us to do that, then these people need to be reimbursed).

TheOak

Two months ago I started teaching my 14yo Daugherty how to drive. Everything else pales in comparison honestly.

TheOak

I’m not sure if anyone else is where but stay at home orders are not the only thing attacking the gulf coast economy right now. The oil and gas service industry is critical and the house of Saud took a shot on it just over a month ago...

Even if everyone is alllows to go back to work tomorrow we have a vital keystone industry that is crippled.