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Old 03-30-2020, 09:08 PM   #51
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I am going to remain civil though your comment warrants otherwise. That sort of comment is uncalled for and has no place in these forums.

If it is all the same, I exposed myself to enough chemical and biological weapons for my country.
I stand by that comment and unlike the idiot internet warriors, I have no problem telling anyone what I said in person. The idea that we should let this virus run its course because it is Mother Nature is disgusting and that is what you ought to be upset about but you thought it was just fine. That's some real care about your fellow Americans there - let them die, heck, they are old or infirm, etc., so who cares about them. Don't bring in your military service to somehow make me or someone else feel like it is wrong to say your idea is disgusting because you are in the military - so was my Daddy and step-dad and a ton of other people in my family and it still didn't make them right all the time and the same is true here. We ought to have enough respect for our neighbors to respect their right to life.

Good gracious in WWII we were asked to make serious sacrifices. All we are asked here is to stay at home for 6-8 weeks and we can't even do that. Complaining because we have to stay home. The whining of Americans these days is crazy. Wasting time watching stupid Netflix and letting kids play on stupid social media instead of productively learning and using the time wisely - I never wonder why Louisiana and Mississippi are nearly always last in education.
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:15 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
I am going to remain civil though your comment warrants otherwise. That sort of comment is uncalled for and has no place in these forums.

If it is all the same, I exposed myself to enough chemical and biological weapons for my country.
I saw this on the last page of the thread before I knew the details of who you were responding to so I’m not saying this because we kind of see eye to eye on the subject. Thank you for your service.
The guy has like 20 posts. Doubt he will be around long.
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:24 PM   #53
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I stand by that comment and unlike the idiot internet warriors, I have no problem telling anyone what I said in person. The idea that we should let this virus run its course because it is Mother Nature is disgusting and that is what you ought to be upset about but you thought it was just fine. That's some real care about your fellow Americans there - let them die, heck, they are old or infirm, etc., so who cares about them. Don't bring in your military service to somehow make me or someone else feel like it is wrong to say your idea is disgusting because you are in the military - so was my Daddy and step-dad and a ton of other people in my family and it still didn't make them right all the time and the same is true here. We ought to have enough respect for our neighbors to respect their right to life.

Good gracious in WWII we were asked to make serious sacrifices. All we are asked here is to stay at home for 6-8 weeks and we can't even do that. Complaining because we have to stay home. The whining of Americans these days is crazy. Wasting time watching stupid Netflix and letting kids play on stupid social media instead of productively learning and using the time wisely - I never wonder why Louisiana and Mississippi are nearly always last in education.
I thought his comment about "culling" was pretty disgusting. On the other hand, though, you seem to be on the other extreme that we should just stop the world, in order to "save" it.

You have a lot to read about when it comes to economics, if you don't understand the far reaching effects that can have on society. Also, you lack perspective of all of the far greater dangers we face on a daily basis, from other viruses, and just every day activities, like getting in your car and driving down the highway... without shutting down the world.

This sort of thing sets a dangerous precedent for how little it might take for the states to shut things down again, in the future. If you call that "whining", I think your definition of that word needs some work.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 03-31-2020, 06:19 AM   #54
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My mother and mother-in-law are both in their 80's. I just want everyone to be as smart and as safe as possible until most dangers subside. But, you are wrong about Social Security. It is not supported by taxes. It is supported by everything those of us have paid into it for most of our lives OUTSIDE of taxes. It is OUR money already allotted for return based entirely on what we paid into it.
Guido I’m being pragmatic not procedural, there are no certainties here and all the government has to do is borrow against SSI to deplete it.

However....

Let’s assume that during a global pandemic, 20% unemployment, a crippled economy and deprecated healthcare system someone says... No, Social Security is off limits. Once the government starts printing money and inflation out paces Covid-19 infection rates your whole social security check won’t buy a tic-tac.


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When the unemployment reaches unprecedented levels and SSI isn’t funded by workers the present generation drawing benefits will deplete it before I get to it even though I will have paid into it for 40 years... you don’t have to pay into SSI to get benefits.


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Old 03-31-2020, 06:31 AM   #55
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Oh dear ****ing Lord, some of you need to learn to read, it’s an essential skill when one wishes to communicate at an adult level.

NO WHERE did I say anything about people dying or culling or that I wanted anyone to die or become infected with a virus. Not one fu3king place.

TheDude asked if he was the only one that thought something, I told him “no he wasn’t”... I’ve heard that from more than one person.

Because of that, I get veiled threats? These boards have gone to ****.
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While you and I are in complete agreement about this virus, and how it should actually be handled, I think you missed what "The Dude" really said. He didn't merely suggest that the at risk people should self-isolate. He's saying the world is over populated (which is nonsense) and that we should just let "nature" kill the "weak", so we'll no longer be over populated. Which, again, is total nonsense, and it's kind of sick.

It's a fact, that people die in the thousands from viruses every year, because of age or preexisting conditions. And if at risk people don't protect themselves properly, they have themselves to blame, unfortunately. Which is why this whole shutdown is idiotic. But the way The Dude said it, came across as saying the more weak people that die, the better. And there is just no place for that kind of talk.
I understand what he said, he throws out extremist views either because he has them or for shock value here to get a rise out of people... and it works... either way that wasn't the first place that I have heard it.


My reply to him was not by any means intended to be read as though I am in agreement with him. Which I am not...
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:23 AM   #57
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Amidst all the panic and hyperbole

https://www.businessinsider.com/what...-in-his-legs-5
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... and now for something completely different ...

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While you and I are in complete agreement about this virus, and how it should actually be handled, I think you missed what "The Dude" really said. He didn't merely suggest that the at risk people should self-isolate. He's saying the world is over populated (which is nonsense) and that we should just let "nature" kill the "weak", so we'll no longer be over populated. Which, again, is total nonsense, and it's kind of sick.

It's a fact, that people die in the thousands from viruses every year, because of age or preexisting conditions. And if at risk people don't protect themselves properly, they have themselves to blame, unfortunately. Which is why this whole shutdown is idiotic. But the way The Dude said it, came across as saying the more weak people that die, the better. And there is just no place for that kind of talk.
burning metal, my friend, I like the way that you view life. There are other options besides killing off the elderly. In some cultures the people love and revere the elderly and ensure that they are taken care of. We need to remember that the elderly spawned the next generation. Maybe these folks agree that culling the herd is the answer would rather wait a couple of decades until they are up there in age. They might look at things differently.

And if this is about the money and cost of caring for the elderly then how about not giving out huge bonuses to Corporations CEO's? Or maybe we eliminate the tax write offs for corporations. Here is another thought. If such a large chunk of our money goes to defense spending then cut it back to a more manageable number. The corporations that get these contracts make billions and get tax write offs as well. We have the money to take care of every American. Now we just need to get the corporate loving lawmakers out of office.

Here's another thought. America first. We give away billions in aid every year while we have a homeless problem at home. Just sayin'. The money is there! Rant over!

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Old 03-31-2020, 04:41 PM   #60
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I stand by what I said but maybe using the word “culling” was in poor taste. I have a sick sense of humor.
I do wonder if letting this thing run its course would be better in the long run but it doesn’t mean I want people to die.

The decision has been made to do what is being done now and while I don’t agree with it I am adhering to it and doing everything I can to prevent the spread. I wear gloves, sanitize, social distance, and my wife and I stay away from our families.

One thing is for sure, life will never be the same.

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