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RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 886476)
Watch our best talent will haul in with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. Halo has spoken!!!!
no 2nd rd pick

Halo 04-23-2020 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886480)
no 2nd rd pick
:chug:

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 886482)
:chug:
tell me about it

FinSaint 04-23-2020 10:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886480)
no 2nd rd pick
Inside info on a pending trade?!

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 10:56 PM
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Halo 04-23-2020 10:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 886484)
Inside info on a pending trade?!
I'm just making up imaginary things... like some other websites, ya know!

K Major 04-23-2020 10:57 PM
Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886473)
I wouldn't want to move McKoy at all. He was an above average rookie center.

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:57 PM
Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread
 
Man Warfords cap hit is 12.8m

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886488)
Man Warfords cap hit is 12.8m
Exactly.

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:57 PM
Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 886484)
Inside info on a pending trade?!
no 2nd rd pick

not n.o 2nd rd pick lol

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 10:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 886487)
I wouldn't want to move McKoy at all. He was an above average rookie center.
The word is he struggled with audibles at the line and the snap repoire was less than desirable from the QB's side...

st thomas 04-23-2020 10:58 PM
Re: Saints Draft Days Official Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 886476)
Watch our best talent will haul in with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. Halo has spoken!!!!

Halo Ceazzor u got the toga on tonite dawg


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FinSaint 04-23-2020 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886490)
no 2nd rd pick



not n.o 2nd rd pick lol
...yet

:bng:

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:59 PM
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Easton is most likely gone.

POTENTIAL OUT: 2020, 1 YR, $4,000,000; $1,500,000 DEAD CAP

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886491)
The word is he struggled with audibles at the line and the snap report was less than desirable from the QB's side...
so they are going to replace him with a rookie?

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886494)
Easton is most likely gone.

POTENTIAL OUT: 2020, 1 YR, $4,000,000; $1,500,000 DEAD CAP
No, Brother. That's ideal, prototype, textbook contract numbers for a veteran swing offensive lineman...

Only way he goes is if Clapp steps up to the next level which I'd love to see, but he's not gotten as strong two years in the NFL...

SmashMouth 04-23-2020 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886497)
No, Brother. That's ideal, prototype, textbook contract numbers for a veteran swing offensive lineman...

Only way he goes is if Clapp steps up to the next level which I'd love to see, but he's not gotten as strong two years in the NFL...
Me too... plus he's an LSU guy. Maybe we can get that other LSU OL tomorrow.

Rsanders24 04-23-2020 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 886413)
No one heard of Armistead, Chuck brown started in front of him for like 10 games. Chuck brown, remember that fool?
Armstead made a name for himself at the Senior Bowl coming from the SWAC. He was already a terrific athlete. I followed him closely his senior year and was looking for him to replace Brown.

It’s not just if you heard or knew of a player, it’s what his value is at the pick. I’m not disappointed in the pick mainly because it doesn’t surprise me. I just thought that if either LB was available or maybe WR, that’s where we would go. McCoy was a definite need and had a low 1st to mid 2nd Rd grade on him. Ramz had a 1st Rd grade on him as well.

They weren’t big names like most skill players but I was ecstatic that we got Armstead in 2013.

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886495)
so they are going to replace him with a rookie?
Ruiz gets low - really, really low in his blocks - That's important in getting underneath interior d-linemen, taking the leverage away, and forklifting them into their own linebackers...

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886497)
No, Brother. That's ideal, prototype, textbook contract numbers for a veteran swing offensive lineman...

Only way he goes is if Clapp steps up to the next level which I'd love to see, but he's not gotten as strong two years in the NFL...
armstead
peat
mccoy
warford
ram

ruiz
easton

something has to give i guess we are planning for multiple ol injuries like last year

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 11:08 PM
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I read Warfords contract wrong he is definitely getting cut no one will trade for him

We save 7.7m if cut pre 6/1 release

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:09 PM
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LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 886502)
I read Warfords contract wrong he is definitely getting cut no one will trade for him

We save 7.7m if cut pre 6/1 release
Teams need Guards, he'll get a sign and trade where it takes the load off that 1st year, relief for the Saints, new team (MIA ?) will get a veteran guard, and well get a Round 3 or 4 pick...

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:11 PM
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Clyde Edwards to the Chiefs - WOW!

RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886505)
Teams need Guards, he'll get a sign and trade where it takes the load off that 1st year, relief for the Saints, new team (MIA ?) will get a veteran guard, and well get a Round 3 or 4 pick...
that would be great

st thomas 04-23-2020 11:12 PM
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Ride with Clyde to champs jesus


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RefsRobbedUs 04-23-2020 11:12 PM
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wow the chiefs got clyde

K Major 04-23-2020 11:13 PM
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Fellow alum Catholic High Bears…

Congrats to Hellaire.

FinSaint 04-23-2020 11:16 PM
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Did you guys notice that Goodell didn't engage the Saints' fans at all before he announced the pick?

Not a big deal, but seemed weird since he did it with all other picks that I noticed.

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:17 PM
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Alright Brothers, good discussion, exciting first round, little deflating bit of a reach for us in Round 1, but it was still smart and showed the offensive line is the priority...

Excellent Pizza Pie and Cold Yuengling - Time for a four hour nap...

May have to get one of those Popeyes Sammiches which will be one less than that rookie can have, right Smash?

Sammiches. That's funny right d'ere!

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 886511)
Did you guys notice that Goodell didn't engage the Saints' fans at all before he announced the pick?

Not a big deal, but seemed weird since he did it with all other picks that I noticed.
Oh, Fin, that's sh*t is personal - very personal...

Rsanders24 04-23-2020 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886491)
The word is he struggled with audibles at the line and the snap repoire was less than desirable from the QB's side...
So is McCoy another Stephone Anthony? Appeared to have a great rookie year then....BOOM! Dog house...

FinSaint 04-23-2020 11:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886512)
Alright Brothers, good discussion, exciting first round, little deflating bit of a reach for us in Round 1, but it was still smart and showed the offensive line is the priority...



Excellent Pizza Pie and Cold Yuengling - Time for a four hour nap...



May have to get one of those Popeyes Sammiches which will be one less than that rookie can have, right Smash?



Sammiches. That's funny right d'ere!
Man, I miss Yuengling :(

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:21 PM
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LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

Would love to move Warford and a fifth for MIA Round 2 pick, even our original pick and take RT Ezra Cleveland...

Then we could move Ram to LT and Mr. Glass could get us another Day 2 pick like LBer Logan Wilson or maybe, a defensive end or cornerback I dare not jinx...

ChrisXVI 04-23-2020 11:22 PM
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Thanks everyone for a great first round watch party! I was upset that we got sooo close to getting Justin Jefferson but Cesar Ruiz was another guy in my “bubble” so I’m happy. Can’t wait for tomorrow!

FinSaint 04-23-2020 11:24 PM
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PFF draft profile claims Ruiz is not athletic ??

Go figure...

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 886514)
So is McCoy another Stephone Anthony? Appeared to have a great rookie year then....BOOM! Dog house...
No, look he graded solidly as a blocker, it's just that the added responsibilities were a bit much for him...

If you move him off the ball, he can focus on blocking assignments only - a mid 80s graded lineman now just mauling; so you get younger, stronger, cheaper at RG...

Now you can extend Ramczyk, Lattimore, Kamara, Mr. Marcus...

And you still have Anzalone and T-Rex contracts coming due...

saintsfan1976 04-23-2020 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886516)
LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (FA 2020), 62 - Nick Easton

C (2) 51 - Cesar Ruiz (R1P24, #24), 63 - Cameron Tom (FA 2020)

RG (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020)

Would love to move Warford and a fifth for MIA Round 2 pick, even our original pick and take RT Ezra Cleveland...

Then we could move Ram to LT and Mr. Glass could get us another Day 2 pick like LBer Logan Wilson or maybe, a defensive end or cornerback I dare not jinx...
And Drew shows up to work like.... “where is my team”?

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 886521)
And Drew shows up to work like.... “where is my team”?
We've been here before, he'll get it done...

jeanpierre 04-23-2020 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886441)
IOL Cesar Ruiz, Michigan; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 307 lbs.; Arms: 33-1/8"; Hands: 11"

40 Yd Dash: 5.08 sec; BP (225 lbs): 28 reps; Vertical: 33 in; Broad Jump: 113 in; 3 cone: 7.91 sec; 20 Yd Shuttle: 4.64 sec


Note: These are Official NFL Combine Measurements, not my opinion...

NFL.com Draft Prospects: IOL Cesar Ruiz, Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 886518)
PFF draft profile claims Ruiz is not athletic ??

Go figure...
Look at those combine numbers - a 5.08 40? 28 reps on the BP? 33 inch Vertical? PFF has started a good system, but it's flawed with the subjective nature of sketchy graders...

Besides, he's gonna play Center, and McCoy will move to Guard...


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