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jeanpierre 04-24-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 886639)
The jump by LA to snag Murray probably caught them off guard. Get it? But seriously, I'm uber happy with Ruiz.

That's is a great point - When New England traded back, Payton Camp thought they had their boy in Murray; they likely thought the Chargers were going CB or Safety...

Then the Chargers selected Murray...

Have no doubt that with the Wuhan Virus spectre causing social distancing that that limited the Saints ability to coordinate a trade back within what is normally a too long selection period...

Believe today was the day we were to trade up into the second in a package deal with Warford and/or Peat and take Ruiz early in the second...

Instead they adjusted the plan and made the mild reach of Ruiz...


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jeanpierre 04-24-2020 02:23 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-24-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886653)
That's is a great point - When New England traded back, Payton Camp thought they had their boy in Murray; they likely thought the Chargers were going CB or Safety...

Then the Chargers selected Murray...

Have no doubt that with the Wuhan Virus spectre causing social distancing that that limited the Saints ability to coordinate a trade back within what is normally a too long selection period...

Believe today was the day we were to trade up into the second in a package deal with Warford and/or Peat and take Ruiz early in the second...

Instead they adjusted the plan and made the mild reach of Ruiz...


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Why would you think Ruiz was a reach when he was clearly the best interior offensive lineman in the draft? In your mind it may have been a reach, but you aren't the one doing the REAL drafting, my friend so your opinion of what signifies a reach is just that ... your opinion. ;) As for myself, I thought it was a great pick that addressed one of the biggest needs we had coming into this season.

AsylumGuido 04-24-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886654)

The pick keeps looking better and better the more I hear about Ruiz.

19-0 baby!

:bng:

The Dude 04-24-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886653)
That's is a great point - When New England traded back, Payton Camp thought they had their boy in Murray; they likely thought the Chargers were going CB or Safety...

Then the Chargers selected Murray...

Have no doubt that with the Wuhan Virus spectre causing social distancing that that limited the Saints ability to coordinate a trade back within what is normally a too long selection period...

Believe today was the day we were to trade up into the second in a package deal with Warford and/or Peat and take Ruiz early in the second...

Instead they adjusted the plan and made the mild reach of Ruiz...


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I doubt the virtual draft had anything to do with not being able to coordinate a trade. It’s always done over the phone or monitor anyway.

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 886663)
I doubt the virtual draft had anything to do with not being able to coordinate a trade. It’s always done over the phone or monitor anyway.

Maybe not in the Saints' case with Payton having autonomy; but when leadership teams of franchises would need to confer, it's far more expedient to huddle in person...

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 886657)
Why would you think Ruiz was a reach when he was clearly the best interior offensive lineman in the draft? In your mind it may have been a reach, but you aren't the one doing the REAL drafting, my friend so your opinion of what signifies a reach is just that ... your opinion. ;) As for myself, I thought it was a great pick that addressed one of the biggest needs we had coming into this season.

AG, nearly every scouting service had him graded in the second round...

You may not think so, but I do have an informed, well-read opinion as this is kinda what I do this time of year if you haven't noticed...

There was also the fact that Payton was one of the longest on the clock last night, selecting with less than two minutes left...

I'll be sure to follow up with confirmation once my sources can confirm without it being traced back to them...

halloween 65 04-24-2020 05:07 PM

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I want Higgins and Akers tonight.

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 886682)
I want Higgins and Akers tonight.

If you haven't watched his film, you may want to read the scouting on Akers - he has among the worst vision of draftable RBs in this class...

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:13 PM

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I have leaned one thing I forgot I learned it a couple of years ago. That None of us know what the hell the Saints are going to do come draft day. But about mid season we forget the anger and how upset we were when say Alvin Karama is running like a no one has ever ran before or Thomas leads the leage is pass catches.

I don't have a problem with whatever Sean wants to do because well he gets it done.

I recall so many people complained about AK in the 4th round when we could have got him undrafted FA. Sean sees and knows something. Now if we trade he we'd get a 1st and more for him.

So next year... When the 5 best players availabe are up and we are up. I am going elsewhere...

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 05:15 PM

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45 minutes until the 2nd round begins... and probably an hour until we pick again despite not having a round 2 pick... yet.

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886686)
45 minutes until the 2nd round begins... and probably an hour until we pick again despite not having a round 2 pick... yet.

Just got wind that the Saints may have a deal with Miami to trade into the round.

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886686)
45 minutes until the 2nd round begins... and probably an hour until we pick again despite not having a round 2 pick... yet.

Now the Bengals are actively trying to trade back... hmmm.

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 886689)
Just got wind that the Saints may have a deal with Miami to trade into the round.

No kidding? That would be pick 39. Should be lots of good players available in that spot.

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 05:30 PM

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jeanpierre 04-24-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886691)
No kidding? That would be pick 39. Should be lots of good players available in that spot.

Maybe. Don't forget MIA also has our pick at No. 56...

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886691)
No kidding? That would be pick 39. Should be lots of good players available in that spot.

It may include a player - Larry Walford.

spkb25 04-24-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 886689)
Just got wind that the Saints may have a deal with Miami to trade into the round.

Where did you hear? Wonder if we can trade them stills again

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 886697)
Where did you hear? Wonder if we can trade them stills again

Sports radio up here in Cleveland. I don't know if they were in contact with the Browns. But the talk right now is that Saints are in talks with Miami. Bengals are interested in trading down but no word if the Saints have been in touch with them.

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 886696)
It may include a player - Larry Walford.

That would be excellent. Less draft pick compensation we have to give up the better.

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886702)
That would be excellent. Less draft pick compensation we have to give up the better.

I don't see this anywhere yet nor confirmed but we also maybe sending our 4th and Walford to move up.

I am good with it if we get another possible starter.

spkb25 04-24-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886702)
That would be excellent. Less draft pick compensation we have to give up the better.

Or kamara

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 05:50 PM

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My gosh, Bucky Brooks sucks balls so bad...

Euphoria 04-24-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 886704)
Or kamara

No... talk has it its Walford and a 4th.

Kamara is a 1st rounder plus. We can't give him up and expect to win a SB this year.

spkb25 04-24-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 886706)
No... talk has it its Walford and a 4th.

Kamara is a 1st rounder plus. We can't give him up and expect to win a SB this year.

Kamara is whatever Miami is willing to give

Yeah I don't see us moving him, but it is possible. Wouldn't be the end of us

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:11 PM

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CheramieIII 04-24-2020 06:11 PM

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We are not trading Kamara. As stated before it's Warford and our 4th for Miami's 2nd

lee909 04-24-2020 06:12 PM

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I wouldn't be that shocked if they moved Kamara if they could get Taylor. Especially if they are not planning to sign him to a extension. Reports yesterday they had a high first round grade on him.

Do t think it happens, just wouldn't be shocked

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:16 PM

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ESPN has too many talking heads need to lose about three of these idiots...

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 06:16 PM

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Bengals take Tee Higgins. Better value there than in the first round. Good move.

spkb25 04-24-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 886710)
We are not trading Kamara. As stated before it's Warford and our 4th for Miami's 2nd

Just going to end up with nothing for him like 22?

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:20 PM

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Run on WRs is starting...

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 06:20 PM

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Man, Pittman will be an excellent complement to TY Hilton and Parris Campbell in Indy. Big body X receiver to go with the smaller fast guys.

dizzle88 04-24-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886716)
Run on WRs is starting...

It's the same every year, Payton has this belief that WR can be left until after the draft.

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886717)
Man, Pittman will be an excellent complement to TY Hilton and Parris Campbell in Indy. Big body X receiver to go with the smaller fast guys.

And Phillip Rivers will be spreading it all over the field in IND...

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:24 PM

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Lions got their RB in Swift...

ChrisXVI 04-24-2020 06:28 PM

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Giants need an edge rusher here in the worst way.

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 886721)
Giants need an edge rusher here in the worst way.

They need WRs for Daniel Jones as well; all they really got is Golden Tate...

And they need a FS...

lee909 04-24-2020 06:31 PM

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TV two picks behind now

Just hurry it up

jeanpierre 04-24-2020 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 886722)
They need WRs for Daniel Jones as well; all they really got is Golden Tate...

And they need a FS...

Xavier McKinney, smart move, best graded safety in the draft...

Giants are really having a solid draft, that's two players with first round grades...


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