Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 06:10 AM

A typical contrarian trope takes the form, "everything you know about topic X is wrong". Sound Familiar?

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 08:10 AM

Jordan Palmer. (Either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained.)
TD–INT: 0–2
Passing yards: 66
Passer rating: 28.7

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Jordan Palmer. (Either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained.)
TD–INT: 0–2
Passing yards: 66
Passer rating: 28.7

He said that he doesn't have anywhere near the talent of some of these young QB's coming out now. One of the most highly regarded private pitching and QB coaches, Tom House, only won 29 games in his eight year career and saved only 33 games. He has worked with both Tom Brady and Drew Brees. It's not what you can do yourself that's important as a trainer, it's what you can do to help your client improve. Right?

vpheughan · 07-15-2020, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He said that he doesn't have anywhere near the talent of some of these young QB's coming out now. One of the most highly regarded private pitching and QB coaches, Tom House, only won 29 games in his eight year career and saved only 33 games. He has worked with both Tom Brady and Drew Brees. It's not what you can do yourself that's important as a trainer, it's what you can do to help your client improve. Right?

My point was the "Never Was" ex NFL Busts that expound the virtues of "cutting edge training" when they themselves couldn't be "trained".

As I stated, Jordan Palmer either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained to be a successful NFL QB.

I've seen trained seals on balance beam catch a ball and hold it on their nose. Didn't make them great running backs!

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2020, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

My point was the "Never Was" ex NFL Busts that expound the virtues of "cutting edge training" when they themselves couldn't be "trained".

As I stated, Jordan Palmer either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained to be a successful NFL QB.

I've seen trained seals on balance beam catch a ball and hold it on their nose. Didn't make them great running backs!

As I pointed out Palmer himself mentioned that he didn't have the natural talent of many of these players receiving this training. The fact is that the vast majority of great coaches were not very successful in their own sports. "Never was" ex busts can still teach others even though they didn't have the individual talent to excel themselves. They can also know what it takes to be great given the prerequisite God-given talent. I think you can agree that those seals don't have the God-given talent to play runningback in the

NFL, right?

JayFoster · 07-15-2020, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As I pointed out Palmer himself mentioned that he didn't have the natural talent of many of these players receiving this training. The fact is that the vast majority of great coaches were not very successful in their own sports. "Never was" ex busts can still teach others even though they didn't have the individual talent to excel themselves. They can also know what it takes to be great given the prerequisite God-given talent. I think you can agree that those seals don't have the God-given talent to play runningback in the NFL, right?

Hi,

There is no such thing as "natural talent." Unfortunately, that is a myth propagated by a lot of people and it is frustrating because it makes people think they are unable to achieve what someone else did.

RaginCajun83 · 07-15-2020, 10:14 AM

This reminds me of all those stupid exercise routines Bush had when he was with the Saints. It all looks like nonsense to me

Rugby Saint II · 07-20-2020, 11:01 AM

The more ways you can challenge yourself the better. It's pretty simple stuff actually. Keep your brain working outside the box.

07-15-2020, 06:10 AM	#1
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet A typical contrarian trope takes the form, "everything you know about topic X is wrong". Sound Familiar?
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet Jordan Palmer. (Either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained.) TD–INT: 0–2 Passing yards: 66 Passer rating: 28.7
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet Originally Posted by vpheughan Jordan Palmer. (Either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained.) TD–INT: 0–2 Passing yards: 66 Passer rating: 28.7 He said that he doesn't have anywhere near the talent of some of these young QB's coming out now. One of the most highly regarded private pitching and QB coaches, Tom House, only won 29 games in his eight year career and saved only 33 games. He has worked with both Tom Brady and Drew Brees. It's not what you can do yourself that's important as a trainer, it's what you can do to help your client improve. Right?

07-15-2020, 01:11 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He said that he doesn't have anywhere near the talent of some of these young QB's coming out now. One of the most highly regarded private pitching and QB coaches, Tom House, only won 29 games in his eight year career and saved only 33 games. He has worked with both Tom Brady and Drew Brees. It's not what you can do yourself that's important as a trainer, it's what you can do to help your client improve. Right? My point was the "Never Was" ex NFL Busts that expound the virtues of "cutting edge training" when they themselves couldn't be "trained". As I stated, Jordan Palmer either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained to be a successful NFL QB. I've seen trained seals on balance beam catch a ball and hold it on their nose. Didn't make them great running backs!
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet Originally Posted by vpheughan My point was the "Never Was" ex NFL Busts that expound the virtues of "cutting edge training" when they themselves couldn't be "trained". As I stated, Jordan Palmer either didn't listen to his trainers or couldn't be trained to be a successful NFL QB. I've seen trained seals on balance beam catch a ball and hold it on their nose. Didn't make them great running backs! As I pointed out Palmer himself mentioned that he didn't have the natural talent of many of these players receiving this training. The fact is that the vast majority of great coaches were not very successful in their own sports. "Never was" ex busts can still teach others even though they didn't have the individual talent to excel themselves. They can also know what it takes to be great given the prerequisite God-given talent. I think you can agree that those seals don't have the God-given talent to play runningback in the NFL, right?

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JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As I pointed out Palmer himself mentioned that he didn't have the natural talent of many of these players receiving this training. The fact is that the vast majority of great coaches were not very successful in their own sports. "Never was" ex busts can still teach others even though they didn't have the individual talent to excel themselves. They can also know what it takes to be great given the prerequisite God-given talent. I think you can agree that those seals don't have the God-given talent to play runningback in the NFL, right? Hi, There is no such thing as "natural talent." Unfortunately, that is a myth propagated by a lot of people and it is frustrating because it makes people think they are unable to achieve what someone else did.
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RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet This reminds me of all those stupid exercise routines Bush had when he was with the Saints. It all looks like nonsense to me

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Alvin Kamara Shows Off What May Be His Craziest Workout Yet The more ways you can challenge yourself the better. It's pretty simple stuff actually. Keep your brain working outside the box.